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Sri Rama In Iraq? This P N Oak-Like Obsession Should Stop! What about Oakism working against “Hindu cause”? It should stop immediately!

July 8, 2019

Sri Rama In Iraq? This P N Oak-Like Obsession Should Stop! What about Oakism working against “Hindu cause”? It should stop immediately!

Fight among the right

Why rightist historian Aravindan Neelakandan attacks another rightist historian?: Aravindan Neelakandan is considered as right-wing intellectual, Hindutwavadi and “hitorian” for RSS. He is often invited by the Sangha Parivar organization to talk about various topics. The Hindutwa websites[1] of various categories praise him as “savior of Hinduism” and so on. He has exhibited certain type of “anti-brahmin” attitude thrugh his writings in social media. Wikipedia mentions him characteristically[2], as he “… is an Indian writer. He… belongs to the post-socialist Indian thinkers of cultural evolutionism about Indian ethnogenesis.” Some of Hindutwavadis have started criticizing him also[3]. However, he has not been seen in any history Congress of published any research paper. Last year, he was seen with Dr Venkata Ragotham[4], Dean of  School of Social Sciences and International Studies during the PondyLifest 2018, discussing “Aryans, Dravidians and Indians: Future of India”. However, as a researcher or as “historian” did not follow any methodology, but, talked very generally[5]. If any one listens to him carefully, his own way “okism” could be noted easily, as he did not give any historical evidence. For some reason, it is evident that he has been targeting P. N. Oak. In December 2017, when there was a criticizing article on P. N. Oak[6], immediately, he came out with his attack[7], of course referring to it. So, now, in 2019, when he wrote like this, I was provoked very much for his bias.

Michael, Venkat, AV, Sankara Narayan

He does not know the difference between wall painting and sculpture: He wrote in “Swarajya,” as follows:

Recently there has been a lot of sensation in the media over the speculation made by a a team from an organization called Ayodhya Shodh Sansthan linking a sculpted mural in a rock cliff in Iraq to Ramayana. The expedition was accompanied by among others, Indian ambassador to Iraq, Pradeep Singh Rajpurohit. If at all, he has to criticize, he should have criticized this “Ayodhya Shodh Sansthan” for going there, with government funds to promote such “okism,” as dubbed by him. But, without knowing the difference between wall painting and sculpture, he pounced upon P. N. Oak and criticized Prof Sharad Hebalkar.

Naturally the media reported this news and many Hindutvaites have been happy to see an old fantasy of a world Vedic empire getting vindicated — the fantasy of the P N Oak type[8].

Disparaging P. N.Oak: He continued, “This fantasy of a world-wide Vedic empire is a consistent weakness in the worldview of certain Hindutvaites. P N Oak — an ex-INA freedom fighter turned ‘historian’ — had a life-long obsession to prove that Vedic Dharma once existed throughout the world. Soon many claims were made, many of them laughable but not for those who  considered them to be true. [9].

Thus Jerusalem was Yadhusailam, Canterbury was Skandapuri, Vatican was Vadika – a city of gardens, Incas were Ishvaku, Aztecs were Aastikas and California was Kapila-Aaranya. In fact, these, Hindutwavadis were appreciating and supporting P. N. Oak. Ironically, lectures were arranged in IIT etc., by the Sangha people. Used and exploited his books, but, now, he attacks him!

 “We see what we love to see. Consider the following picture. What is shown here is a purported artistic depiction of a stele of the pre-Colombian era from Guatemala.

Sharad Hebralkar book

Picture – An artistic depiction of a stele from Gautemala (L), Cover of a book by Sharad Hebalkar (R)

Dr Sharad Hebalkar, BISS: He continued, “The publication I have before me — Dr Sharad Hebalkar’s Essays on History of Pre-Columbian America — claims that this is actually a depiction of Ganesa — notice the trunk in the face — and Siva, His father in the sky. However, if one looks at these particular types of steles, which are quite abundant in the pre-Colombian sculptures of South America, one can see that it is not so”.

Sharad Hebralkar book-2

Picture – The variations of the same theme in steles and a close-up of one. The ‘artistic depiction’ is a clear misreading or an example of ‘seeing what one wants to see’ fallacy

Still if one wants, s/he can claim that the stele actually shows Bhagiratha and the Ganga with Siva getting it to the earth through His matted hair. Or one — deluded to the brim of his cranium with ‘Ancient Aliens’ serial — can also claim that it actually shows extra-terrestrial origins of our civilizations. All these are actually nothing but archaeological Rorschach figures. Taken out of their archaeological, historical and cultural contexts, these artifacts get interpreted from the historical and cultural contexts of the interpreter. Perhaps, he would not have read Waddell, Mackanzie, Chamanlal etc., leave alone P. N. Oak. So why he targets Oak and leaves others? This is intriguing…….His way of reducing them to “archaeological Rorschach figures” is amusing. Recently, Ganapati Stapati also brought out a book repeating the same ideas on his own. Thus, obvious, the main point that Oak had dealt with other issues, had been the “myth of Jesus Christ”! So this affects him?

Christianity, Krishna Niti, P N Oak

In the case of the ‘Rama and Hanuman’ mural the same fallacy has happened. It is at best a sculptural Rorschach. In this context, let it be said that it was a person using the Twitter handle of @TrueIndology — whose account has yet again been suspended by Twitter — who publicized and punctured the so-called Rama connection by pointing out that it was actually an ‘Akkadian warrior tramping a defeated Hurrian while another Hurrian begs’.

Rama, AV, twitter

– Picture- Tweet referring to what @TrueIndology had said about the Rama-Hanuman mural discovered in Iraq.

By building elaborate ancient world histories based on such illusions, we are undermining a more important, serious cause that Hindutva should serve.

In a way, the Hindu civilization is the last standing civilization that has a natural religion. Everywhere in the world the aboriginal natural religions along with the pagan religions of the West have been destroyed or are undergoing destruction. From the Yazidis to the Australian aborigines to the native American tribes, the destruction effected has been colossal.

However, these cultures need not have been derived from the Vedic culture to be protected. They have to be protected because they represent human diversity and validate the spiritual unity of humanity through theo-diversity. In fact ‘unity in diversity’ is the basis of  Hindutva.

And hindered spiritual communities have looked at India — naturally and spontaneously for their protection — for validating them. Let us consider, for example, Umbanda, an African religion from Brazil. The communities practicing this spiritual tradition claim that their tradition can be traced back to the sacred Aum of Hindu Dharma. Here, what is at play is not as much a historical fact, as a realization of spiritual kinship with the natural religion of India. Thus, India becomes the protectress of the world’s natural and aboriginal spirituality.

Aztec, honoured by RSS head

Picture – The Elders’ Conferences conducted to preserve global theo-diversity and natural spiritual traditions by the Sangh has its roots in the vision and wisdom of Ram Swarup.

Keonraad Elst

Historical (and often) pseudo-claims of a Vedic world civilization: He continued, “Incidentally, the Sangh realizes this. It has been conducting conferences of ‘World Elders’ belonging to various indigenous traditions. Dr Koenraad Elst traces the spiritual inspiration for this series of events to the deep thinker and magnificent Hindutva intellectual, Ram Swarup (1920-1998). Yashwant Pathak, the co-founder of the International Center for Cultural Studies (ICCS) — along with Prof S W Bakhle — acknowledges that Ram Swarup was one of the inspirations. Ram Swarup, rather than claiming a common historical origin (with India being that origin), anticipated a grand spiritual validation of the theo-diversity of human species. He embraced both monotheism and polytheism with his roots in the Vedic dictum of ‘unity without sacrificing the diversity’.

As against this, the approach through historical (and often) pseudo-claims of a Vedic world civilization for uniting the natural spiritual traditions of the world is bound to fail. His speech at PondyLitFest 2018 on inculturation, Hindu religion etc., have been amusing in the context. Yes, like a politician, he talks and writes differently! So he has no right to criticize Oak or Sharad Hebalkar.

He concluded as follows: “What is more important in Iraq today is to network with the Yazidis and provide them the comfort that there is a cousin spiritual tradition and people supporting them rather than inventing the footprints of Rama in Iraq”.

Pre Christian Buddhism

What is going on among the Hindutwavadis?: Nowadays, the open accusation, blaming and fighting with each other by the Hindutwavadis, cadres etc., have been open in Tamilnadu. Each person or group tries to project him/herself with their group / groups with vested interests. Of course, the power, money and business interests affect them to get exposed at one level. However, when they claim that they work for “Hindu cause,” that is becoming a myth. Ironically, many directly and indirectly work for Christians and Mohammedans too. Politicization of the cadres has corrupted them with extra-ideological interests. Particularly, in the social media and the functions conducted without informing all, but, known afterwards, expose the hidden agenda. As still thousands have been working for the cause, sincerely and honestly, the facts comes out one day. Therefore, talking, writing and behaving differently a different forums, stages and gatherings would harm not only the “Hindu cause,” but also their integrity, because of such duplicity practiced.

P N Oak

To understand P. N. Oak (1917-2007): He has been exploited by the Hindutwa groups, right-wing cadres and BJPwalas like anything. His books on “Taj Mahal” are still quoted today. Many Hindutwa researchers and writers and websites, freely use his writings, findings and materials without mentioning his name. To understand the fact, the lengthy article on him should be read[10]. His association with Netaji and Savarkar could be noted and appreciated[11]. However, the criticism started perhaps from Koenraad Elst[12] has been picked up by others. Later, he used the expression[13] “okism.” Many of his books can be downloaded from here[14]. As for as his historiography is concerned, his methodology was accepted till 1960s, as at that time, the etymological interpretation was accepted and after correlation and corroboration with the archaeological and other evidences were carried on. Therefore, the exploitation of his books and rejection by the right-wing groups cannot be considered as rational or otherwise. Hindus should have unity and co-operation in all aspects. If power, money and such other factors could divide them, the, there is no meaning in their category and other ideological groups.

© Vedaprakash

07-07-2019

[1] The persons who maintain the website http://www.tamilhindu.com/ have mutual interest with him in other aspects.

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aravindan_Neelakandan

[3] The Rational Hindu, The limitations of Aravindan Neelakandan and why he should keep to his expertise, Sep 18, 2017.

https://therationalhindu.com/the-limitations-of-aravindan-neelakandan-and-why-he-should-keep-to-his-expertise-329f409764a2

[4] Dr Venkata Raghotam is supposed to be a ABVP leader with rightwing ideology. http://www.pondiuni.edu.in/profile/dr-venkata-raghotham

[5] This video exposes the stand of Michael Danino, Venkata Ragotham, A. Neelakandan and Sankara Narayanan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWkwDsBYX8g

[6] Roderick Matthews, In the Beginning was Sanskrit. Really? , Open essay, 15 December 2017; http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/essay/in-the-beginning-was-sanskrit-really

[7] Aravindan Neelakandan, Tarring Hindutva With The Oak Brush, by Swarajya, Dec 21, 2017, 4:42 pm;  https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/tarring-hindutva-with-the-oak-brush

[8] Aravindan Neelakandan, Sri Rama In Iraq? This P N Oak-Like Obsession Should Stop!, by Jun 28, 2019, 12:59 pm

[9] https://swarajyamag.com/culture/sri-rama-in-iraq-this-pnoak-like-obsession-should-stop?fbclid=IwAR0JHRA_tfCAcXctKDyftQkwmJ9kN_c4ikUGMT_1I-Gcuj3cQaV5uezF3-8

[10] Shrinivas Tilak, P. N. Oak (1917-2007): The lone fighter, etymologist, and historian,

[11] http://creative.sulekha.com/p-n-oak-1917-2007-the-lone-fighter-etymologist-and-historian_318699_blog

[12] Koenraad Elst, The Incurable Hindu Fondness for P. N. Oak, June 23, 2010.

[13]  http://koenraadelst.blogspot.com/2010/06/incurable-hindu-fondness-for-pn-oak.html

[14] https://archive.org; https://archive.org/details/EnglishBooksOfP.n.Oak

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Dr B.R. Ambedkar International Conference 2017 – Quest for Equity  – Reclaiming Social Justice, Revisiting Ambedkar (1)

July 27, 2017

Dr B.R. Ambedkar International Conference 2017 – Quest for Equity  – Reclaiming Social Justice, Revisiting Ambedkar (1)

Dr Ambedkar conference - GKVK- entrance

The Government of Karnataka and Congress sponsored International Conference: The three day “Dr Ambedkar International Conference” was held at the complex of GKVK [Gandhi Krishi Vigjana Kendra], Bellary Road, Bangalore – 560 065. On 12th July, an advertisement appeared in the leading dailies and newspapers that “Dr B.R. Ambedkar International Conference 2017 QUEST FOR EQUITY” would be held giving the website reference[1]. When visited the site, it was found that one had to register as a “Speaker” or “Participant”, but, while trying for “Speaker”, message appeared that it was over. So our members registered as “Participant”. Then, we received message in our phones, “You can collect your badges at our counters at Vetenary college, opposite to CBI officer, Bellary Road, Hebbal, Bengaluru on 21st, 22nd and 23rd July, 2017 between 9 AM and 6 PM. There will be no entry to the venue without authorized badge……..”. Thus, it was evident that conference had been so restrictive and not opened to all. After reaching Bangalore and the venue only, we could understand that the Conference was completely sponsored by the Government of Karnataka and thus by the Congress.

GKVK hall entrance

More invitees, but less space – over-crowded Conference: We collected badges and proceeded to the venue on July 21st afternoon. There was heavy security and checks at different levels before entering the auditorium. The participants were not allowed, but asked to go to the gallery, but, when we went there, where we were informed that the space was meant for the “Speakers”. There was commotion at every level, as more and more categories of persons [VIP, Participant, Speaker, Press, Volunteer and so on] started pouring inside the venue and hall. Nearly more than three hours, all were harassed like anything to go here and there. Then, somehow, we were accommodated in the gallery. In the hall, there was shouting between the audience and the press, for two reasons, the press people were not accommodated properly and they were blamed for obstructing the view. All these were happening, before the arrival of the Chief guests etc. Around 5 pm, the Congress Vice President Rahul Gandhi entered the stage with many VIPs.

Hiccups galore- Star of Mysore - coverage-of 21-07-2017-2

Nandita Das’ gaffes or the confusion of Congress: The bollywood actress Nandita Das was compeering[2], but involving series of gaffes as dignitaries were welcomed by ministers, the script read over other names. For instance, while MLC Govindarajulu welcomed Nobel Peace laureate Kailash Sathyarthi, Das read it as agriculture minister Krishna Byre Gowda. When leader of the Congress party in the Lok Sabha Mallikarjuna M Kharge was invited by Byre Gowda, Das said, “He will be welcomed by minister R. Roshan Baig.” When the audience burst out with laughter, Das realizing the gaffe, said: “It is not my fault….they (ministers) are changing. I am just reading from the script”. In other words, the bouquets were handed over to the persons, not matching with the names of the persons announced. Even the dignitaries on the dais were embarrassed by this turn of events[3].  It was also pointed out that not only Rs.22 crores were spent in extravagant manner, but, also 3,000 invitations were given away, while the capacity of the auditourium was only 1,000, thus, virtually creating a stampede.

Man shouted slogans at conference-siddharamaiah started speaking-1

Siddharamaiah’s tirade against BJP: Siddaramaiah said the recent spate of communal and caste-based attacks has shown that people cannot afford to rest. Endorsing Rahul’s views, the CM said: “Today, we are told that being a good Indian means we have to ignore the inequality and exploitation in our midst; that we need to adhere to rigid norms regarding food, clothing, language and free speech; that we have to privilege the majoritarian view of India. I reject such a view as it is totally opposed to the letter and spirit of our Constitution.” He the idea of India as a plural society is at the crossroads. “Values that our civilization and culture held in high esteem are facing a critical test in view of the onslaught of divisive and exclusivist ideas,” he said[4]. His desperate tirade against made him exposed that he was perhaps preparing for the last battle.

 Martin Luther King III-Modi has unleashed a ferocious animosity against minorities.

Martin Luther King – III – his unwanted talk on Indian society etc: ‘Modi’s election, like Trump’s, has unleashed violence against minorities’ American human rights advocate Martin Luther King III was unflattering in his comments about Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s concern for the poor and the rule of law[5]. Drawing parallels between US President Donald Trump and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Martin Luther King III, the son of American civil rights movement icon Martin Luther King Jr, said here on Friday [21-07-2017] that both have limited regard for the poor and for law and order. King III, a human rights advocate and community activist was speaking at the inauguration of the three-day conference “Quest for equity – Reclaiming social justice, revisiting Ambedkar”, in which around 300 scholars, activists and policymakers will discuss the ideas of Dr BR Ambedkar. King III, whose father championed the rights of black Americans in the mid 20th century, said both countries are led by individuals who have limited regard for the poor and disinherited[6].

Martin speech - DC_BLR_2017-07-23_maip1_19

Martin Luther and Ambedkar compared: He drew parallels between US President Donald Trump and Modi and said that both had unleashed “ferocious animosity” against the minorities which had be countered by the people rising up against it[7]. He pointed to similarities between the Dalit lives matter and black lives matter movements in the two countries and outlined the ongoing Dalit agitation in Gujarat. He also spoke of the parallels in the lives, thoughts, struggles and philosophies of his father Martin Luther King Jr and Ambedkar.  “The political situation is the same in the US and India. There is the alt right and Hindu nationalists who are dominating. We are both led by men who have unleashed ferocious animosity against the minorities. In India, cow vigilantes are lynching Muslims, Dalits and unfortunate women. People who believe India is a Hindu nation are being placed in positions of power. We must resist,” he said. India’s caste system, he contended, was a prison without walls for more than 200 million Dalits[8].

1000 labourers worked for the conference

20 crore spent Mega International Conference with contradictions, confusions and politicized speeches: A sum of ₹20 crore was spent on three-day international conference ‘Quest for equity–reclaiming social justice, revisiting Ambedkar’, to mark the 126th birth anniversary of Dr. B.R. Ambedkar from July 21 to 23 2017 on GKVK campus of the UAS-B[9]. Nearly a dozen round-table conferences had been organised, Public Works Minister H.C. Mahadevappa, who has in-charge of the event, told presspersons, adding that Web telecast had been arranged for the benefit of students and faculty of 13 universities in the State[10]. On July 21st [Friday] evening, the Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi came to inaugurate the conference. Civil rights activist Martin Luther King III and host of Social and political thinkers, philosophers, academicians, activists and others had been the speakers. During the inaugural function, there were some glaring short comings in compeering made by Nandita Das, lighting of lamp etc. When Nandita Das was calling the names for the distribution of mementos, there was utter confusion and in fact, she retorted that she was not responsible for such goof-up[11]. At the time of lighting lamp, almost, all on the stage were with shoes and chappals.

GKVK - Sathyarti, Prakash Ambedkar speaking

Kailash Sathyarthi speech: Nobel laureate Kailash Sathyarthi said it was not enough to just remember Dr Ambedkar from time to time. “We must live with Babasaheb inside each of us,” Sathyarthi said. Sathyarthi said it was a great testament to the continuing power of Dr Ambedkar that India’s presidential elections was a contest between two Dalits, Ramnath Kovind and Meira Kumar. He was narrating his story as to how he was to suffer, though he was a born Brahmin, but tried to bring SCs to enter the Nathwada temple. The temple priest reportedly attacked him and he was ordered and forced to clean his legs as repentance. Kailash refused to do that and changed his name to “Sathyarthi” [seeker of truth]. Millions of children are not in schools, but they are in the fields. In the same way, young girls are thrown to prostitution. They are the children of Ambedkar. In India, there are two issues that are not discussed – 1. Child labour and 2. Human trafficking. This has been all over the world. Though, he talked about these, he never opened his mouth about pedophiles prowling in India and raping the children up to 18 years old. It is well known that most of the pedophiles have been foreigners and that too Christians and priests also. Note the Christian orphanages have been supplying girls and boys to them, as revealed in thousands of cases reported and unreported. And “Sathyarthi” [seeker of truth] never talks about all these issues, though, children are involved. Had he raised these issues, perhaps, he would not have recommended, nominated for and got Nobel Prize.

© Vedaprakash

27-07-2017

Man shouted slogans at conference-siddharamaiah started speaking-2

[1] https://www.questforequity.org/

[2] The Times of India, Script causes some amusement, Jul7 22, 2017, Bangalore edition, p.6.

[3] http://starofmysore.com/hiccups-galore-dr-ambedkar-intl-conference-bengaluru/

[4] http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/modi-rss-rewriting-history-to-muffle-the-oppressed-rahul-gandhi/articleshow/59705722.cms

[5] INDIA Updated: Jul 22, 2017 10:34 IST, Vikram Gopal, Hindustan Times, Bengaluru

[6] http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/modi-s-election-like-trump-s-has-unleashed-violence-against-minorities/story-fyq4HW0RCSJpLPoqnP4sIK.html

[7] The Economic Times, Rahul Gandhi , Luther III slam Sangh Parivar, By Sowmya Aji, ET Bureau|Updated: Jul 22, 2017, 02.34 PM IST

[8] http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/rahul-gandhi-luther-iii-slam-sangh-parivar/articleshow/59706779.cms

[9] The Hindu, 20 crore for conference on Ambedkar, Special Correspondent Bengaluru, JULY 16, 2017 23:52 IST; UPDATED: JULY 16, 2017 23:52 IST.

[10] http://www.thehindu.com/…/20-crore…/article19290644.ece

[11] http://starofmysore.com/hiccups-galore-dr-ambedkar-intl-conference-bengaluru/

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (2).

December 29, 2015

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (2).

1.Shri-Vajubhai-Rudabhai-Vala-Governor-of-Karnataka-inaugurated10th-National-Conference-on-Woman-in-Indian-Culture-through-the-Ages12.18 am (24-12-2015) Senate Hall, Mysuru: M. A. Jayashree sang an inagural song, read “Sankalpa” for the Conference and then, all stood up to sing Janaganamana!

The governors and VIPs arrived and the inagural ritual started.

Those who were on the Dias:

  1. Balamukund.
  2. Prof K. S. Rangappa, VC, University of Mysuru was the Chief Gust of Honour
  3. HE Vajubhai Vala Karnataka
  4. HE Mridula Sihna Goa
  5. Sri Suresh Joshi Bhayyaji, Sarkaryavah, RSS was the guest speaker.
  6. Satish Mittal.
  7. Tontadarya, ex-MLC

ABISY - inagural function Suresh Joshi Bhayyaji, Sarkaryavah, RSS was the guest speakerThe speech of Suresh Bhaiyyaji Joshi: 12.25 pm: The 10th national conference of the Akhil Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Yojana began here on Thursday with RSS general secretary Suresh Bhaiyyaji Joshi finding fault with the tradition of confining women to household work[1]. Talking in Hindi, he said, family system was the root of the country, that should be protected by ensuring education, health and safety of womenfolk. Delineating on the need to set right the history of the country, Joshi said, the samiti has taken up many works to introduce the core strength of the country to the people. “While Aryans were indigenous people of India, Britishers falsely propagated that they came from outside. The truth was established after researching deep into the issue. The origin of Sindhu-Saraswati River has been traced”, added Joshi[2]. Addressing the gathering at the inaugural of the conference titled ‘Woman in Indian culture through the ages’ by the yojana, Mr. Joshi said there was a need for women to emerge from the confines of their homes and assume roles in industry, education, politics and other spheres of life. If a country were to achieve progress economically, socially and geographically, there was a need to empower women, he said emphasising the importance of creating awareness on the issue. He also said women should populate not only the army, but also the air force and navy. While favouring bringing Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and various adivasis into the mainstream, who he said “may be weak, but not unwise”, Mr. Joshi said that issues relating to rural and tribal women, who comprise 70 per cent of women, should be brought on the agenda of the discussions. He called for the need to establish a just society on the basis of equality that is free from western influence. Mr. Joshi emphasised the need to present correct history. Research helped bust the myth that Aryans had invaded India before the Mughals and the British. That Aryans were not foreigners, but were locals, had been proved by scientific evidence, he claimed[3].

Goa Governor Mridula Sinha speaking at the ABISYs 10th national conference in Mysuru on Thursday 24-12-2015-PHOTO- M.A. SRIRAMWhat HE Mridula Sihna Goa spoke: 12.50 to 1.15 pm: HE Mridula Sihna Goa spoke in Hindi. Referring to the practice among a section of the women to avoid bearing children, Goa Governor Mridula Sinha described motherhood as nature’s best gift to a woman[4]. Speaking after inaugurating the national conference organised by the Akhila Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Yojana here on Thursday, Ms. Sinha said that she still advises her daughter against forgetting to serve her husband his food even if she does not have the time to cook[5]. “But, never should a woman go hungry,” she said. Also, she went on to say that it was important for men to discuss women’s issues[6]…………the three-day meet should discuss the relevance of nature, culture and decency as they are inter-connected with each other. While nature remains intact after being created, the Indian culture is largely dependent on the nature.Describing motherhood as god’s gift to womenfolk, Sinha regretted that new-age women were avoiding motherhood, that was once protected and preserved, equally contributing to the welfare of the society[7].

6.Shri-Vajubhai-Rudabhai-Vala-Governor-of-Karnataka-inaugurated10th-National-Conference-on-Woman-in-Indian-Culture-through-the-AgesHE Vajubhai Vala spoken on the conference: 1.16 to 1.23 pm: HE Vajubhai Vala Karnataka spoke in Hindi. Governor Vajubhai Vala, who presided over the event, said that women, who play a strong role inside their houses, should display their strength even outside. Though he regretted the delay in the passage of the Women’s Reservation Bill that seeks to set aside 33 per cent of the seats in Parliament and State Assemblies, Mr. Vala said that many women are now occupying powerful posts in the bureaucracy. ….Women nowadays have taken a lead in many fields, with 70 per cent women bagging top honours on the academic front[8]. Most importantly, it’s women who inculcate culture among children. Be it any women, men should ensure their safety and security[9].On the role of women in politics, Vala said, there are examples of women leaders occupying top posts like president and prime minister in India, while in western countries it is more common to see women leaders occupying key positions. Thus, the entire inagural session was carried on in Hindi. After lunch, the paper-reading session started in different rooms of the building situated next to library. The Kannda and Sanskrit sessions were arranged seperately, whereas, the Hindi and English papers were mixed together and the paper-presenters, particularly, those who presented in English could find difficult, as their papers were interpersed between many Hindi papers.

3.Shri-Vajubhai-Rudabhai-Vala-Governor-of-Karnataka-inaugurated10th-National-Conference-on-Woman-in-Indian-Culture-through-the-Ages25-12-2015 (Friday): Paper reading session. Most of the papers were in Hindi and the delegates who did not know Hindi could not understand what was presented. They felt they missed important information, data and information that might have been contained in such presentation. And many papers were in the form of “articles” and not of the nature of “reseach paper”. The emphasis made the title and the sub-themes made the presenters to repeat, duplicate and even rehash the same points, aspects and subject matter. Of course, the “cut and paste” methodology was also noted and pointed out by the organizers themselves.

2.30 to 4.40 pm: General Body Meeting of ABISY.

5.00 to 7.40 pm: Visit to Mysuru palace lightning.

ABISY 10th National Conference inagurated by Mysuru-Goa Governors-Deccan Herald26-12-2015 (Saturday): Paper reading session continued with the same conditions pointed out above. Had the papers been scrutinized properly, such things could not have been occurred. The corrections, modifications and rewriting could have been intimated so that the quality of paper presentation could have been maintained. Such exercise would be useful and educative for budding researchers in paper preparation and presentation. Women paper presenters had not addressed the issues, problems faced by the Indian women. Some women appeared to have felt that “they are happy” and therefore, other “women are also happy”.  Most of the woman paper presenters had not been aware of the current issues dealt with in India in different spheres and thus, papers had been of “glorification of the past” nature. Even in the globalization context also, though only few papers were presented, they had been in a dilemma as to whether to point out the positive aspects or the negative aspects that affect the Indian society.

ABISY - paper presentation, discussion going onWhy papers deviated much away from the theme taken for the conference: The hospitality had been excellent, but, unfortunately, the academic proceedings had been marred by some inherent factors. The subject matter of the whole proceedings was to concentrate on women-issues focussing on the current relating to ancient moral values. The first circular declared that the central subject proposed was “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to present” adding that research papers were also invited on the following topics such as –

  1. Historiography
  2. History in the Puranas
  3. Vaavasi (Tribal) history
  4. District history
  5. Miscellaneous (Archaeology, inscriptions, numismatics, art and architectue, spread of Indian culture abroad etc)

But, the Second circular still enlarged the topics deviating from the women and women-issues givilng the list as follows:

  1. Origin of Indian culture and women
  2. Women in Saraswati-Sidhu civilization.
  3. Women in epic-age
  4. Women in Puranas
  5. Women in Jaina-Buddhist period.
  6. Women in Mauryan and post-Mauryan period.
  7. Women in Gupta and post-Gupta period
  8. Women depicted in indian art / performing art, paintings, wooden, terracota, stone and metallic art / folklore, music, dance etc.
  9. Women in folk tradition and culture
  10. Women in medieval age.
  11. Role of women in freedom struggle
  12. Globalization and Indian women

Other general topics are also as follow:

  1. Historiography
  2. History in the Puranas
  3. Vaavasi (Tribal) history
  4. Regional history

Other Academic subjects:

Archaeology, Epigraphy, numismatics, art and architectue, Indian culture.

The final circular dated 16-10-2015 repeated the above. Thus, the circulars deviated from the theme of the conference, with the diverged subjects and digressing from the idea of the subject matter conceived. Accordingly, the paper-presenters, particularly, the majority of the casual-types had taken full liberty to take any subject and came with “hurried-haste-rehassed” stuff that was criticized by the organizers and the sectional presidents. As they seperated Sanskrit and Kannda paper presentation, Hindi paper presentation or the English paper presentation could have been held seperately. As most of the paper presenters did not follow any “style-sheet” and research methodology, they can be taught about. Incidentally, as ABISY and BISSs have been working on “history writing and re-writing”, they should conduct some workshop for their “paper-presenters” as to how to prepare a reasearch paper. They should be asked to attend IHC, SIHC etc., to listen to historians, interact with others and get experience.

Valedictory function: The valedictory funstion was held at the A.V. Hall without any lack lusture and the same speakers again dwelt upon the same issues in the same manner. Again, the entire ritual was in Hindi. Instead of getting opinion from the delegates about the academic conduct of the conference, it was wound up in a much routine manner. When a particular person was speaking “over-enthusiastically”, the audience started clapping several times. Instead of getting the hint, he continued to talk with spirit provoking them to clap again. There was no indication as to when the 11th National Conference would be held after three years in 2018.

© Vedaprakash

29-12-2015

[1] Laiq A. Khan, Don’t restrict women to household word, The Hindu, Mysuru, December 25, 2015, Updated: December 25, 2015 05:46 IST

[2] http://www.deccanherald.com/content/519415/men-should-empower-women-says8200governor.html

[3] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/dont-restrict-women-to-household-work/article8028161.ece

[4] http://newsnirantara.in/?p=6305

[5] Star of Mysore online, Goa Guv opens Women’s Meet, December 25, 2015; http://www.starofmysore.com/searchinfo.asp?search1=45313&search2=newsheadlines

[6] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/dont-restrict-women-to-household-work/article8028161.ece

[7] http://www.deccanherald.com/content/519415/men-should-empower-women-says8200governor.html

[8] Deccan Herald, Men should empower women, saysGovernor, Mysuru: Dec 25, 2015, DHNS.

[9] http://www.deccanherald.com/content/519415/men-should-empower-women-says8200governor.html

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (1).

December 29, 2015

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (1).

Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore

Naramada hostel one of the accommodations, where delegates stayed

24-12-2015 (Thursday): The Akhila Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Yojana (hereinafter mentioned as ABISY) New Delhi, has been conducting National Conferences once in three years in various parts of India on specfic themes. Of which “The Aryan Problem” had drawn the attention of national and international scholars creating an impact[1]. Besides, there have been national seminars, workshops and Scholars meet (Vidwat Parishads) conducted at different states on specified topics[2].

Sl.

No

Year Where held
1 December,  1991

 

Ujjain
2 Dravidian Problem Dec.26th and 27th 1992 Warangal
3 1994
4 1997
5 The Role of Bhakti movement in Hindu renaissance 2000

October 28th to 30th 1999

Mysore
6 2003
7 Saraswati and the War of Independence 1857 November 17th to 19th 2006 Khurukshetra
8 2009
9 Bharatiya Nationality from past to present October 26-28, 2012 Gwalior
10 Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern 2015 Mysuru
ABISY - Haribhava Vaze, president, talking with Balamund, Ratnesh Tripathi etc

ABISY – Haribhava Vaze, president, talking with Balamund, Ratnesh Tripathi etc

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” jointly organized / sponsored by the Akhila Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Yojana  Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore, Mysuru and Indian Council of historical reseach (hereinafter mentioned as ICHR).  As the theme attracted, some came with papers delving upon the main theme. On 23rd morning itself, about 200 delegates were there in the premises of Regional Institute of Education (RIE), Manasagangotri and they were accommodated in the hostels of Narmada, Krishna, Ganga etc. As more and more delegates started coming, they were accommodated in Terapanta Bhawan. VIP-delegates were accommodated in the University Guest House. The delegate fee of Rs. 750/- was charged and 870 were registered delegates as on 25-12-2015. The press was also briefed about it earlier[3].

ABISY - Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore

ABISY – Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore

Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore[4]: For this, K.S Rangappa VC had appointed a centenary celebration committee. The committee consists of MPs, the former Prime Minister H.D Deve Gowda, former vice chancellors, litterateurs and other distinguished scientists[5]. After rigorous discussion the committee has come up with some projects with members of all shades of political and economic interests[6]. About the request of Rs.100 crores for the celebration and allocation of Rs.50 crires, “The Hindu” reported characteristically[7]. Even as the University of Mysore was getting ready to host its centenary celebration, the government, in a goodwill gesture, announced a grant of Rs. 50 crore for the historic fete which began on July 27, 2015, the day the university was established in 1916. The university had sought Rs. 100 crore from the government for the centenary fete. Chief Minister Siddaramaiah, however, doled out Rs. 50 crore in the State Budget presented by him[8]. Expressing gratitude towards the government’s gesture, VC K.S. Rangappa said, “I thank the government for its benevolence. Actually, we had sought Rs. 100 crore from it for realising certain projects. But we are happy with the allocation.” A website was created and brochure issued[9]. Thus, among the other projects and programmes, the hosting of the Conference was included in the agenda by the Committee.

ABISY - Senate hall entrance - Inagural function

ABISY – Senate hall entrance – Inagural function

Inagural session (24-12-2015): The inaguration was held at the “Senate Hall” and there was secuirity checking, as two State Governors Karnataka HE Vajubhai Vala and Goa HE Mridula Sihna were participating. The delegates were taken to the venue from the Hostels by buses and the hall was full within half-an-hour. Sri Suresh Joshi Bhayyaji, Sarkaryavah, RSS was the guest speaker. Prof K. S. Rangappa, VC, University of Mysuru was the Chief Gust of Honour. They were waiting for the arrival of the Governors. On the stage nothing was there and the backdrop was just started putting up. The chairs were brought one by one and arranged on the stage. Three framed pictures were brought and placed on the chairs, but, they were not fittimg into, so two were removed and only one – that of Bharat Mata was accommodated in a chair. As mentioned, the programme was not started by 9.15, but by 10.15 am in a different way. The Zonal incharges of Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Samiti (hereinafter mentioned as BISS) were called.

ABISY - Senate hall entrance - Inagural function - secuirity check

ABISY – Senate hall entrance – Inagural function – secuirity check

Historians honoured by the organizedrs: 10.24 am: The programme was started. Each zonal incharge was asked to announce the historian selected. Thus, the following announced their respective historian as mentioned against each:

  1. Kataraia, Udaipur…………by……….
  2. Sher Singh announced………….
  3. Dilip Kumar Bhukkan announced for Assam by…………
  4. Anand Sharma (Uttaranchal)…………
  5. Rahman Ali, Ujjain was selected by………….
  6. Seernivasa Rao announced Prof A. Sundara.
  7. Anuradha (Telingana) announced Y. Sudhrshana Rao[10].

It was surprising that for the States, Seemanthra, Tamilnadu and Kerala, no historian of worth could be recognized and announced by them for honouring. It is clear that either the orgnizers or the Zonal incharge could have been so ignorant about their respective regions / States to select and nominate the historians or they did not want take such decision judiciously considering the facts. Ironically, the BISS, Tamilnadu shows many popular historians in their organization – Dr K. V. Raman, Dr R. Nagaswamy, Dr Rama Bai, Prof Dr K. M. Rao, Dr S. Kalyanaraman and others, yet the Zonal incharge could not think of anybody snd nominate nobody! Of course, there have been many-more in those states. When all were happening, many came (some important persons, scholars and elderly people) and returned, as none could recognize them or made them to seat! For instance, Tumkur University VC came and kept waiting and standing, for some time and he was not cared by anybody. Perhaps, the hall received more members to be acommodated than available seating arrangement!

Dr S Kalyana Raman lecture at IGNCA Bangalore Dec.23, 2001

Dr S Kalyana Raman lecture at IGNCA Bangalore Dec.23, 2001 – generally, he used to present on “Saraswati” related topics.

A presentation on “Sarasawati River Civilization”: 10.36 am: Inagural song was sung.

10.40 am: Welcoming the delegates, the person concluded with “Jai Hind, Jai Karnataka”!

11.01 am: Prashant Bharadwaj, Haryana Water Board, started explaining about the “Sarasawati River Civilization” with some slides, which were not at all attractive. Moreover, he was explaing in Hindi and thus evidently noot understood by the delegates coming from different states other than the Hindi speaking ones. It has to be mentioned that earlier Dr S. Kalyanaraman used to give presentation on “Sarasawati River Civilization” with many slides and lot of information, as he has been working on the subject and written many books[11].  He has published many books on the Sindhu-Saraswati civilization. Now, why he was not there was intriguing, as obviously, his absence was reveleaed through some slides used as noted.  However, it was learnt later that he had sent a PPT with many slides for presentation, but ignored by the organizers. About the differing views on “Saraswati” river, a comprehensive note can be seen here[12].

ABISY - inagural function - Press not accommodated initially

ABISY – inagural function – Press not accommodated initially

11.20 to 11.35 am: On RHS of the auditorioum, thee was commotion, as the seats meant for the press people were occupied by the delegates. So when chairs were put before the front road, the police objected to it on secuirity reasons.  The shouting stopped and they were made to settle down.

ABISY - inagural function - Press not accommodated initially- secuirity protest

ABISY – inagural function – Press not accommodated initially- secuirity protest

11.35 am: There were patriotic songs sung by different people. All these attempts were evidently meant for adjusting the delay caused for the arrival of the Governors.

© Vedaprakash

29-12-2015

[1] The all India seminar was held at Bangalore on July 21st to 23rd 1991and the book was published in June 1983 edited by S. B. Deo and Suryanath Kamath.

  1. B. Deo and Suryanath Kamath (Eds.), The Aryan Problem, Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Samiti, Pune, 1993.

[2] Seminar on the “Aryan Problem”, July 21-23, 1991 at Bangalore;

National workshop on Dating in Indian arechaeology, Dec.19-21, 1993, Mysore;

National seminar on Indian Civilization and its chronology, August 18-19, 1995 Madras;

Workshop on “Concept, source and changing pattern of History writing”, Jan.30, 31 and Feb.1, 1998, Uttan, Bhayandar; gama Sangoshti, June.20-22, 1998, Melekote;

National Seminar on “Contribution of South India to Indian Art and Architecture”,  January.26-29, 1999, Kanyakumari, Tamilnadu; etc.

[3] http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/history-conference-from-thursday/article8016179.ece

[4] http://centenary.uni-mysore.ac.in/index.php

[5] http://thecompanion.in/university-of-mysore-glorifying-the-aura-of-a-historic-journey/

[6] http://centenary.uni-mysore.ac.in/advisory-committee

[7] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/rs-50-crore-announced-for-centenary-celebration-of-university-of-mysore/article6993056.ece

[8] The Hindu, Rs. 50 crore announced for centenary celebration of University of Mysore, Shankar Bennur, Updated: March 14, 2015 05:42 IST.

[9] http://centenary.uni-mysore.ac.in/centenary-brochure

[10] It is intriguing to note that he resingned last month as the salary he demanded was not paid. While members of the ICHR contacted by The Hindu said they didn’t know any details about Prof Rao’s step, some confirmed that the Council had recommended an honorarium of Rs. 1.5-lakh per month for Prof. Rao to the government, but no decision had been taken on this yet. Significantly, the ICHR head’s position is an honorary one, for which no salary is paid.

 http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ichr-chairman-sudershan-rao-resigns/article7923496.ece

[11] Indus script deciphered, Indian Ocean Community, Rastram, A Theory for wealth of Nations, Public administration in India, Meluha – Tree of life, Akkadian Rising Sun, Sagan finds Saraswati, Indian Writings in Ancient Neat East and many othrers.

[12] https://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/category/saraswati-river/

“Happy to bleed” campaign, Nikita Azad and Vedaprakash – four days correspondence!

November 30, 2015

“Happy to bleed” campaign, Nikita Azad and Vedaprakash – four days correspondence!

Happy to bleed - campaign against sabarimalai entry deenial to women

On November 24, 2015, I came across one “Happy to bleed” campaign started by one Nikita Azad in the Facebook.

So I have gone through their column, read all the postings, comments and responses, I posted my first comment briefly as follows:

I have carefully gone through the thread.

As usual, the comments have been drifting to different directions with the intruding varied opinion.

The prohibition of menstruating women to enter religious places, participate in Eucharist and rituals etc., has been there throughout the world among the

Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus and others, even today.

Therefore, hope you bleed more happily and reasonably with secularism.

 

Very often the so-called, modern, western, progressive, broad-minded, forward-looking, feminist, and other varieties of ideologists attack Hindu religion, beliefs, etc., under the guise of attacking certain practices, where, ironically, many non-Hindus participate happily. So I started responding and replying many, where, certain specific points were raised. They again and again stressed their point of “right to bleed” etc., with photos of girls holding sanitary napkins in their hands, menstrual blood soaking their jeans, holding menstrual blood in tubes, such blood falling on fingers…….with different comments!

Meena Kandasamy - God do not look between my legs okay

“GOD DO NOT LOOK BETWEEN MY LEGS OKAY” have been the words of one “Meena Kandasamy”!

Happy to bleed - campaign - come and see the blood on my skirt

“Come and see blood on my skirt”, a red banner held by two girls and some girls standing around on the road!

Happy to bleed - campaign - priyanka Sharma and Aina Singh

Are your God would be seduced by women, if they enter?

What would happen if a woman enters with a pad?

Travelling Ayyappa baktas not behaving properly with women.

Janaki Venket How many of the men going to sabarimala actually follow the rules. I have seen many flaunting it! Travelled in a train once with a bunch of these men in black dress ogling at the ladies, passing comments & drinking in the night!

 ………………

I pointed out the propaganda of Muslims there proclaiming that Islam treats women ….gives rights and so on. When pointed out, in the context of menstruation, Islam does not allow women inside mosques, then, some accepted and retracted. Nikita also accepted mentioning my name and declared that they also against Islam, as they are involved in genital mutilation etc.

Happy to bleed campaigners - Sukhjeet Singh and Aman Jalwehra Singh

Two Sikhs holding placards also supported. I asked, “Tell me honestly, whether menstruating women are allowed in the Harmandarsahib”, they did not reply, but, some women responded, and clarified that the point is not that menstruating women are allowed inside mosques of Gurudwaras, but the entry of such women inside temples! So in India, though, women talk about the rights of women etc., they worry about Hindu women only in this way and they do not bother about non-Hindu women like Muslims, Christians, Sikhs etc.!

Happy to bleed campaign - photo

However, she could relish with my responses and answers and therefore, come out as follows:

Friends, this is an IMPORTANT statement.

Many people are continuously trying to defame the campaign by irresponsibly raising religious quarrels, even after we have repeatedly clarified that we oppose all religions, and practices that discriminate on gender grounds. When we openly posted that we are against Muslim communities that practice female genital mutilation, and do not let men and women pray together, the Brahaminical fundamentalists chose another method of maligning the campaign. They started using patriarchal words like ‘decency’ ‘decorum’ etc and even said that ‘have your mothers seen these posts’, which actually clarifies that their agenda is not to have any positive discussion, but defame the campaign. These fanatics simply cannot accept that women have spoken up in whatever manner they find correct. They wish to dictate in the manner of protest also.

Also, these indiviuals have gone to the extreme, and called our activists as prostitutes, that we should be gang raped, that’s what we are good for, and must remain in kitchens.

With only one day left for the social media campaign, we reject such irresponsible criticism, and urge everybody to share this message widely. Because till now we have launched a social media campaign only, and we are gifted with threats like stated, who knows what will happen when we take ground campaign.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I APPEAL TO ALL OUR SUPPORTERS NOT TO USE ANY OFFENSIVE WORD AGAINST THE TEMPLE OR AUTHORITIES, RATHER GIVE THEM IDEOLOGICAL FIGHT WITH YOUR ARGUMENTS. That will actually improve the campaign

Happy to bleed campaign - Nikita Azad accepts that now Islam also does not allow menstruating women inside mosques

Though, many things were not related to me, I responded point by point as follows:

As I have already mentioned that I have been reading your campaign column and responding not only to you, but also other campaigners. Through this comments, as you have unnecessarily have indulged in slandering me, through your remarks, “the Brahaminical fundamentalists chose another method of maligning the campaign. They started using patriarchal words like ‘decency’ ‘decorum’ etc and even said that ‘have your mothers seen these posts’”, I have to point out the following facts:

1.       The so-called “religious quarrels” have been going on in your campaign carried on by your Christian and Muslim friends, as could be noted from their accusing one particular religion, while appreciating their religious “goodness” and all (in fact, they are false, untruth and myth).

2.      we have repeatedly clarified that we oppose all religions, and practices that discriminate on gender grounds, bogey has come out now, obviously, as I started responding to those campaigners and you have also realized mentioning my name specifically in your reply. Ironically, now you want to “bleed with secularism”!

3.      which actually clarifies that their agenda is not to have any positive discussion, but defame the campaign – As you, including all your campaigners, have indulged in such denigrating, disparaging with indecent depiction, portrayal of women etc., your are now trying to defend yourself, by saying all these things.

4.      any positive discussion – Perhaps, it is me who initiated positive discussion and that is why you have realized your mistake of attacking “one particular religion” and started, “we also condemn muslims……………………….” and so on. You also referred to my name in one discussion about “menstruating women entering mosques……………”

5.      These fanatics simply cannot accept that women have spoken up in whatever manner they find correct – what is this? What right you have to call me “brahmanical fundamentalist”, “fanatics” etc?

a.      What is your agenda?

b.      If you do not have guts to respond the points raised me, accept your inefficiency or yur ignorance about the subject matter discussed.

c.       Do not indulge in this type of attack.

d.      In fact, you get exposed yourself, the language you have been using.

6.      started using patriarchal words like ‘decency’ ‘decorum’ etc – Yes, I recorded as follows:

“I am 65, with much anxiety only I have been responding to you and your friends of this campaigning.

You could note that I have been pointing the facts about ‘menstruating women entering the places of worship’.

But you have decided to attack only Sabarimalai movement.

Moreover, when the reporters ask such mischievous questions as to how you check the women entering, only he responded.

Perhaps, you might have known about the case of Jaymala actress who entered the temple.

Today, internet is viewed by children, boys and girls therefore, definitely, some amount of decency and decorum is required in depicting pictorially or otherwise.

7.      Though the other comments are not directed against me, Also, these indiviuals have gone to the extreme, and called our activists as prostitutes, that we should be gang raped, that’s what we are good for, and must remain in kitchens”…………., etc, I want to point out, that Newtons’s third law only worked here! To cite one example, that photo “GOD DO NOT LOOK BETWEEN MY LEGS OKAY”

8.     I APPEAL TO ALL OUR SUPPORTERS NOT TO USE ANY OFFENSIVE WORD AGAINST THE TEMPLE OR AUTHORITIES, RATHER GIVE THEM IDEOLOGICAL FIGHT WITH YOUR ARGUMENTS – so now, you say this! But your entire campaign has been against the temple, temple authorities, customs and practices, beliefs etc. So now you are afraid of some legal action for your defaming, disparaging, denigrating……………..campaign?

9.      Oh campaigners, be calm, relaxed and thing about everything.  I hope most of you are young girls and women studying in schools and colleges with a lot of hopes and ambitions in your minds. So concentrate in your studies, instead of indulging in such campaigns, as such acts would make you imbibed wih ideology, as prompted by Nikita Azad – RATHER GIVE THEM IDEOLOGICAL FIGHT WITH YOUR ARGUMENTS. That will actually improve the campaign.

10.  So, now only after all drum-beating, she has realized that, “That will actually improve the campaign.” Great on Friday, that is the last day of your campaign.

I wish MOTHER GODDESS would bless all of you with all prosperity and good future!

Vedaprakash

27-11-2015.

For this, she could not respond, but, banned me from participating in the campaign expressing views, questioning their way and methodology of the campaign. So, this has become my last response.

Ironically, they talk about rights of freedom of thinking, expression, speech and so on, but when others come to think, express or talk, they ban!

What type of attitude is this?

Is this, the way of having dialogue or group discussion?

Is this the mode of exhibiting their tolerance?

I understand that she has extended the campaign till December 4, 2015!

Vedaprakash

30-11-2015.