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Sri Krishna blasphemed by the rabid anti-Hindu atheist Veeramani, Stalin’s dubious stand in the politics and elections following his father! [2]

April 8, 2019

Sri Krishna blasphemed by the rabid anti-Hindu atheist Veeramani, Stalin’s dubious stand in the politics and elections following his father! [2]

Stalin anti-hindu, Indian Express

Stalin, as usual gave a statement in either way: Answering a question on Veeramani’s outburst against Lord Krishna, which went vital, Stalin, said, “It was not made during our campaign[1]. He chose to do it at a Dravidar Kazhagam event.” It is funny to note his illogical justification, because, can any crime committed in one place is a cfrime, but not so, when commited at some other place? Dravidar Kazhagam complex at Vepery might be a private property with all facilities of having meetings, rallies etc., wt a vast ground and auditorium, but, government has every right to take action, if any law of the land is violated in that place. However, Stalin maintained that Veeramani did not speak with an intention to malign Lord Krishna[2]. “He gave some examples. Some media and RSS have twisted it for false election propaganda. It is not true, but if it is true then it is wrong,” Stalin said[3]. Again, this is also typical escapism and trying to shrug responsibility. He called it a conspiracy[4].

Veeramani blasphemy, RSS planned

Stalin put forward a conspiracy hypothesis: How, he himself has been coming out with such proposition and hypothesis and, all his cadre would follow the suit. With their media support, they aggressively propagate such stuff also. He further said his wife Durga visits temples twice a day and offers prayers regularly[5]. “I never objected to her going to places of worship.” So what, is that a reason that the males could do all sorts of nonsence, as has been done for the last 70 years. He recalled that the DMK founder, C N Annadurai had categorically said the policy of the party was ‘Ondre Kulam, Oruvane Devan’ (One God, one community). Stalin recalled that even his father and late DMK president M Karunanidhi had said in the film Parasakthi, that they were not against temples but only oppose temples becoming dens of hooligans[6]. Though, they have been repeating this dialogue, now, there are no takers, as the recent statue theft, smuggling and related frauds have fully exposed their activities.

Veeramani blasphemy, RSS planned-News Today

BJP has not been mature enough to stick to ideology in Tamilnadu context: The BJP and its alliance partners in Tamil Nadu are claiming consolidation of Hindu votes in their favour owing to the “anti-Hindu” speeches of leaders of the opposition DMK and DK, but the DMK rules out this issue impacting its poll prospects[7]. “People are now saying the AIADMK-led alliance believes in God while the DMK-led alliance is atheist and anti-Hindu. Nowadays there is no distinction between Aryan gods (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) and Dravidian deities (Murugan, Amman and others). In Tamil Nadu, people now go to all temples,” Bharatiya Janata Party’s state OBC Morcha chief S.K. Kharventhan told IANS[8].According to him, there may be four-five percent vote shift in favour of the AIADMK- led alliance owing to such “anti-Hindu comments” of the rival alliance. Elangovan dismissed the claims. “The party rallies and the meetings addressed by our candidates attract huge crowds, which itself shows the support for our alliance.” “May be some fence sitters may vote for AIADMK over this issue. But that number will be very negligible,” he added.

veeramani remarks - news today

BJP has to go long way in Tamilnadu polity: In Tamilnadu, there is no BJP vote bank as such, as the Dravidian polity has been dominating for the last 70 years. Any Dravidian party has to invoke EVR, Anna, MGR, Jayalalita, Karunandhi…. etc., depending upon their front-affiliation. The BJP has been new entrant without any Dravidian ideology and political maturity, in the sense, it could not get into Dravidian political mosaic. It would be an anathema to invoke the Dravidian leaders, yet, they have started doing. As Modi proposed, the Central Station has been immediately changed to MGR Central Station. For the Dravidian parties, Atal Bihari was the right man in the wrong party, but, as fr as Modi is concerned, he is hated like anything.

Karuanidhi abused Hindu as thief; questioned Rama, in which college he took engineering degree to build bridge and so on!

Karuanidhi abused Hindu as thief; questioned Rama, in which college he took engineering degree to build bridge and so on!

From EVR times to 2019: EVR declared that, “There is no god, there is no god, and there is no god at all. He who invented god is a fool, He who propagates god is a scoundrel, He who worships god is a barbarian,” but, for him and as well as his followers, the “god,” has been invariably, the Hindu God. The Christians already opposed and the Mohammedans never bothered, as they knew, EVR had no guts to criticize their god. Thus, his most of the atheistic tracks have been against Hindus only. About one hundred tracts, pamphlets and small books disparage, denigrate and blaspheme Hindu religion, Hindu Gods, Hindu scriptures, Hindu festivals, Hindu ceremonies and so on. EVR has been known for breaking Vinayaka idol and his followers garlanding chappals and beating with chappals of Rama picture. Even burning of Rama picture was carried on last year also.

Karunandhi had been dexterous to exploit every occasion to attack Hindu religion etc., in his own way!

Karunandhi had been dexterous to exploit every occasion to attack Hindu religion etc., in his own way!

Annadurai’s ambivalent position of belief in god: Though, C. N. Annadurai reportedly told, “I would neither break the Ganesha idol nor the coconut (the offering),”that does not catch water.  What he asserted was that negative, instead of telling doing any positive action. He also reportedly claimed that, “There is only one caste and one Devan,” here, he did not use the word “God”! Generally, the expression “Devan” is used to denote “Jesus Christ” in Tamil.

Atheists exploiting Krishna etc

Karunanidhi’s tenure as an atheist and anti-Hindu: Karunanidhi’s anti-Hindu uttering has deeper roots going back to the Anti-Superstition Conference at Salem, the steel city convened by none other than Periyar during early 70’s which saw an effigy of Lord Ram taken out in procession and was beaten by sandals[9]. The effigy was finally publicly burnt. It catapulted DMK to power with 184 seats out of 234 seats in the Tamil Nadu Assembly election and 17 seats out 32 Lok Sabha seats in the General Elections in 1971.  Karunanidhi had stated while addressing a public meeting in 2002 organized by minority outfits to protest the anti-conversion ordinance of the then Jayalalithaa Government, “Do Hindus have a religion? Who is a Hindu? If you ask some right thinking people they’ll say that Hindu actually means a thief. I do not consider that to be a despicable thief, but a thief who has stolen the hearts”. The reference even embarrassed some minority leaders sharing the dais, pointed out media reports from Chennai then. However, Karunanidhi clarified that he had merely quoted from a Hindi Encyclopedia published from Varanasi. “It had defined a Hindu as cruel, servant and bandit. Nevertheless, I chose to ignore that definition and softened it to mean as thieves of hearts,” he said. There is nothing surprising in the statement made by Karunanidhi. Karunanidhi has not only been carrying the political mantle of DMK founder C N Annadurai but also steered the party to power in the state for five times during 1969-1971, 1971-1976, 1989-1991, 1996-2001 and 2006-2011.

TTD met Kru for Ramanujar Jan.2016

DMK has been anti-Hindu only: In fact the Dravidian Movement has always espoused rhetoric of anti-Sanskrit, anti-Hindi and anti-North as these were associated with Brahmin community. The Dravidian movement and later DMK saw southern Brahmins and Northern Indian as Aryans. At one point of time Dravidian Movement had advocated seceding from India as well.  Often DMK supremo Karunanidhi evokes the anti-Hindu sentiments thus reflecting the core ideology of E V Ramasamy, popularly known as Periyar. In light of Sethusamundram controversy a few years back Karunanidhi had challenged that Lord Ram is not a historical persona but a figment of human imagination. Therefore, the iconoclastic activities of the atheist gangs cannot be taken as reformist, as they used to claim, but, consistently, have been against Hindus only. Even the greeting believers on the occasion of festivals and celebrations have also been selective i.e, they greet only Mohammedans and Christians and not Hindus. Contrary, they abuse and ridicule Hindus on the occasion of their festivals. This has been also carried on consistently by Karunanidhi and followed by Kanimozhi and Stalin.

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08-04-2019

ISKCON with Karu

[1] News Today, Stalin disowns DK leader Veeramani’s remark on Lord Krishna, Posted on April 6, 2019 by NT Bureau.

[2] https://newstodaynet.com/index.php/2019/04/06/stalin-disowns-dk-leader-veeramanis-remark-on-lord-krishna/

[3] UNI, Stalin accuses media, RSS of twisting Veeramani’s remarks on Lord Krishna, Posted at: Apr 6 2019 2:24PM.

[4] http://www.uniindia.com/stalin-accuses-media-rss-of-twisting-veeramani-s-remarks-on-lord-krishna/south/news/1553855.html

[5] News18.com, Stalin Plays Down Controversy Over Lord Krishna Speech, Says Public Fed up With Modi Govt, Updated:April 6, 2019, 1:17 PM IST

[6] https://www.news18.com/news/politics/stalin-plays-down-controversy-over-lord-krishna-speech-says-public-fed-up-with-modi-govt-2091441.html

[7] Indian Express, Will DMK’s ‘anti-Hindu’ comments get AIADMK-BJP votes?, Published: 06th April 2019 11:05 PM | Last Updated: 06th April 2019 11:05 PM

[8] http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil-nadu/2019/apr/06/will-dmks-anti-hindu-comments-get-aiadmk-bjp-votes-1961115.html

[9] The Sunday Indian, Anti-Hindu remark returns to haunt Karunanidhi, K S NARAYANAN | New Delhi, April 20, 2013 15:23

http://www.thesundayindian.com/en/story/anti-hindu-remark-returns-to-haunt-karunanidhi/14/47357/

 

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Sri Krishna blasphemed by the rabid anti-Hindu atheist Veeramani, Hindus condemn and complaint, Stalin’s dubious stand in the politics and elections! [1]

April 8, 2019

Sri Krishna blasphemed by the rabid anti-Hindu atheist Veeramani, Hindus condemn and complaint, Stalin’s dubious stand in the politics and elections! [1]

DK Veeramani hate speech 23-03-2019-1

DK Veeramani hate speech 23-03-2019

Veeramani’s derogatory remarks against Sri Krishna, demonstration and complaint: Speaking at an event organised by Dravidar Kazhagam recently on 23-03-2019, Veeramani spoke on the topic ‘Pollachi Scandal – Irresponsible Brahmin Behaviour’. He said Lord Krishna should be the first person who should be booked for the criminal act of eve-teasing[1].  He added[2], “…We can take the example of God known as Krishna. He stole the clothes of women, when they were taking bath and gave back under the guise of giving salvation by asking them to come to him naked and collect the clothes. Such was the crooked Krishna. But, this picture was framed, kept in house and worshipped without shame. So how such worshiping person could be honest and discipline? Thus, from stealing butter at small age, to stealing women’s clothes at adolescence and further asking them to come out, Krishna was the instigator of eve-teasing and a criminal. He should be booked and arrested. Can anybody disagree that Hindu religion cannot even project a god with discipline, honesty and decency. How then, the worshipping gang can claim any discipline? But, Periyar brought out all these nonsense and they say that discipline has gone only because of him!.” Veeramani is well-known for making derogatory remarks on Hindu culture, practices and Gods. Through its mouth-piece, “Viduthalai,” every Krishna Jayanthi, it would come out with rabid, highly malicious and disparaging articles on the Krishna’s hagiographic and apocryphal legends. Because of the Tamilnadu state government support, all of his activities are ignored and he thinks that he has been above law. Most of the advocates and judges have been the nominees of Dravidian parties and they have been faithful and obedient employees of their political masters[3].

Prof M. A. Venkatakrishnan addressing the demonstation against the hate-speech of Veeramani

Prof M. A. Venkatakrishnan addressing the demonstration against the hate-speech of Veeramani

Hindus staged demonstration: As the video was widely circulated on WhatsApp, it drew the attention of a large number of Hindus. Dr. M.A. Venkata Krishnan Swamy has given a proper rebuttal to K Veeramani. Pointing out to the blabbering of Dravida Kazhagam’s leader, he questioned[4], “Whether the Dravida Kazhagam accepts the character of Bhagawan Krishna? People who kept talking that there were no such characters(Lord Krishna) and Puranas were fake seemed to have accepted the Puranas now. So, it conveys that they have accepted Lord Krishna and Devas as well. Since they have accepted the God now, it is clear that they talk nothing but blabbering.”  While reminding about E.V. Ramaswamy’s derogatory comments about womanhood and marriage relationships, Dr. MAV Swamy added, “Pollachi rapists should have followed EVR and definitely not Lord Krishna”. The rebuttal video from Dr. MAV Swamy is also getting circulated on social media[5]. As this time, this roused passion among the Hindus, they demonstrated against his remarks and also filed complains.  On 02-03-2019 [saturday], Hindus staged a demonstration at Chepauk condemning Veeramani, in which, many scholars participated. Particularly, Prof M. A. Venkatakrishnanan, HOD of Vaishnava Studies, University of Madras participated and explained the issue in context, condemned Veeramani and exposed his illogical blasphemous statements. Perhaps, this has been the first time in the Dravidian rule that Hindus have effectively come out and refuted the atheists and condemned them[6]. However, the media has downplayed the event. What prof M. A. Venkatakrishnanan spoke can be listened to here[7].

Hindu leaders condemn the hte-speech of Veeramani, however, Stalin defended him!

Hindu leaders condemn the hte-speech of Veeramani, however, Stalin defended him!

Criminal case has been booked by the Central Crime Branch police: The Central Crime Branch (CCB) police has booked a criminal case against Dravidar Kazhagam leader K. Veeramani for his disparaging remarks against a Hindu God while addressing a public meeting recently[8]. The police filed the case after receiving complaints from Hindu Makkal Katchi and Thirumoolar Thiruthondu, a religious organisation[9]. In their complaint, the Thirumoolar Thiruthondu members alleged that Mr. Veeramani spoke of Lord Krishna in a derisive manner at a meeting in Periyar Thidal, Vepery. B. Senthil, general secretary, Hindu Makkal Katchi, complained that Veeramani, in his speech, had made derogatory remarks hurting religious sentiments and promoting enmity. Hence, they wanted the police to take action against him. The CCB registered a first information report (FIR) against Mr. Veeramani under sections 153 (Wantonly giving provocation with intent to cause riot), 153A (Promoting enmity between classes), 295A (Deliberate and malicious acts, intended to outrage religious feelings), 298 (Uttering, words, etc., with deliberate intent to wound the religious feelings of any person), 505 (1)(b), (Inducing any person to commit an offence against the State or against the public tranquility) and 505(1)(c)(statements creating or promoting enmity, hatred or ill-will between classes) of the IPC.

DK veeramani canvassed for Tiruavukkarasu

DK veeramani canvassed for Tiruavukkarasu Congress leader, hitherto abusing each other ideologically and for other reasons.

Congress leader sat with rable rouser Veeramani: A day after a few Hindu Munnani cadres disrupted a Dravidar Kazhagam (DK) public meeting at Trichy, the city police on 08-04-2019, Friday arrested a total of 16 people in connection with the incident. The arrested include cadres from both outfits[10]. Gandhi Market police registered a case and arrested nine Hindu Munnani members including functionaries Manikandan and Balamurugan[11]. The police also arrested seven DK members including local functionaries Arockiyaraj and Mohandoss. This has been typical secular police action, just to satisfy both cadres. DK members alleged that negligence in providing security and failure to evacuate Hindu Munnani cadres from the venue led to the violence which left four of their cadres injured. The outfit was holding a public meeting showing support for Congress candidate Su Thirunavukkarasar at Keerakadai Bazaar when a host of Hindu Munnani members threw stones at the gathering. In fact, video shows exchange took place between the two groups. However, it is strange to note, how, Thrunavukkarasar, who wants his name to be called so not as “Thirunavukkarasan” or “Thirunavukkarasu,” but with respect, sat together wit the anti-Hindu Veeramani, tha too, when he indulged in such rants recently made against Sri Krishna. He was in AIADMK and BJP and now in Congress, therefore, none could believe that he has been so naïve to accommodate such rabble-rouser.

DK version of attack - Krishna issue

DK version of attack – Krishna issue

DK justifying the derogatory remarks of Veeramani: DK members said that permission for the meeting was obtained from the election and police departments by intimating them of the presence of DK president K Veeramani and DMK MLA K N Nehru. Though DK cadres preferred to host the meeting near Sedal Mariyamman temple in Bhima Nagar, they were given permission to host the meeting at Keerakadai. As the meeting progressed, while DK’s general secretary Arivukkarasu was justifying a controversial remark made by DK leader K Veeramani at Hindu god Krishna, a group of Hindu Munnani cadre pelted stones and plastic chairs at the dais. “It seems like a planned attack as there was no adequate police protection to prevent the violence. Even after the assault, the vehicle of our leaders was stopped and there were attempts to assault them,” a DK member.

Stalin - Veeramani plot 07-04-2019 i.e, Stalin claries and defends Veeramani and Veeramani accepts his defense!

Stalin – Veeramani plot 07-04-2019 i.e, Stalin claries and defends Veeramani and Veeramani accepts his defense!

Permission to conduct meeting does mean to justify blasphemy: Already, police complaint has been lodged against Veeramani. Therefore, it is meaningless, justify his statements made against Sri Krishna. Meanwhile, Hindu Munnani founder organiser Rama Gopalan claimed DK members attacked them first after they opposed DK leaders criticising lord Krishna. “As per election model code of conduct, remarks insulting religious sentiments are prohibited. Though we have lodged complaints across against K Veeramani’s derogatory remarks, police are hesitant in taking action,” Rama Gopalan said. People of Tamilnadu should wait and see, what action police or any law enforcing authority going to take against Veeramani or his cadre?

DK and Hidu Munnani clash in Veeramani meeting-Tamil news cutting.2

Some leaders condemn Veeraani, but, attack also: AMMK deputy general secretary TTV Dhinakaran, in Trichy on Friday, condemned the attack by Hindu Munnani members on the cadres of Dravidar Kazhagam (DK) over the alleged derogatory remarks on Hindu gods. He also disapproved of the comments made by the rationalists[12]. “What they (DK) did was also wrong. But if they say something derogatory in a democratic country, one can sue them and can react to them in the court of law. The act of attacking them will set a wrong precedence in Tamil Nadu and it will trigger turbulence among the people. If they take the law in their hands, it will boomerang,” Dhinakaran told the reporters in Trichy in his response to DK and its president K Veeramani’s religious remarks on Hindus[13]. As he has been talking according to the occasion and context, it cannot be taken taken seriously.

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08-04-2019

Abusing Hindu religions, Gurus and all, he allowed his first wife to portray before Sai Baba!

Abusing Hindu religions, Gurus and all, he allowed his first wife to portray before Sai Baba!

[1] Viduthalai, Pollachi – a warning, where is disciple Periyar and indecent Krishna and his gang of followers?, 24-03-2019.

[2] https://www.viduthalai.in/page1/178638.html

[3] When Karunanidhi died, the advocates, judges of all categories gathered to pay homage and sing eligi and how they cae out with their confessional statements or loyal obedient submissions about the work done during their tenure. In fact, they themselves have felt ashamed of what and how they spoke ath the occasion. So the question is when such obedient and ideological oriented persons occupy higher positions, how the state missionaries could function when Karunanidhi like politicians sit as CMs?

[4] Rightlog.in, As the 2019 general elections approach, anti-Hindu muck of Dravidian politics resurfaces, Pranesh Rangan by Pranesh Rangan March 30, 2019.

[5] https://rightlog.in/2019/03/dravida-kazhagam-hindu-01/

[6] For attacking a Brahmin and cutting sacred thread, two years back, in Mylapore, Hindus came together and complained t the police.

[7] பொள்ளாச்சி பாலியல் கொடூரத்திற்கு ஈவேரா கொள்கைகளே காரணம் டாக்டர் எம்.ஏ.வேங்கடகிருஷ்ணன் சாட்டையடி பதில் (வீடியோ இணைப்பு) – https://www.facebook.com/namtvnews/videos/631989670562525/

[8] The Hindu, Veeramani booked for offensive remarks, SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT CHENNAI, APRIL 05, 2019 01:18 IST; UPDATED: APRIL 05, 2019 01:18 IST.

[9] https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/veeramani-booked-for-offensive-remarks/article26738747.ece

[10] Times of India, Stone-throwing: 9 of Hindu Munnani, 7 of DK arrested, tnn | Apr 6, 2019, 04:38 IST.

[11] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/stone-throwing-9-of-hindu-munnani-7-of-dk-arrested/articleshow/68746893.cms

[12] Times of India, TTV condemns attack on DK cadres, tnn | Apr 6, 2019, 04:40 IST

[13] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/ttv-condemns-attack-on-dk-cadres/articleshow/68746920.cms

Dravidian DK-DMK have been definitely anti-Hindu and neo-atheist rabid, but, pro-Mohammedan and Christian for votes!

April 3, 2019

Dravidian DK-DMK have been definitely anti-Hindu and neo-atheist rabid, but, pro-Mohammedan and Christian for votes!

Karuanidhi abused Hindu as thief; questioned Rama, in which college he took engineering degree to build bridge and so on!

Karuanidhi abused Hindu as thief; questioned Rama, in which college he took engineering degree to build bridge and so on!

Dravidian leaders have been anti-Hindu and blasphemous in their speeches and writings: EVR or the so-called Periyar “great person” had been totally anti-Hindu and brought out dozens of anti-Hindu tracts without any historical or logical basis. However, they have been printed, reprinted and circulated by the Self-Respect Publishers, Vepery, DK Headquarters. Those who read, have been simply carried away and they never verified the veracity and historicity of what he wrote some 80 years ago. The trend continued with Annadurai, who was a less rabble rouser with verbose and double-meaning. As for as Karunanidhi is concerned, he had been vulgar, blasphemous and indecent commenter. Thus, his son Stalin and daughter Kanimozhi have been in the same way, abusing and blaspheming Hindu religion, scriptures and practices. As their, anti-Hindu activities, discourses and abuses have been in Tamil, perhaps, they are not known to other language knowing Indians and believers.

Karunandhi had been dexterous to exploit every occasion to attack Hindu religion etc., in his own way!

Karunandhi had been dexterous to exploit every occasion to attack Hindu religion etc., in his own way!

The Dravidian leaders abuse ladies even inside Tamil Nadu State assembly: The double entendre, double-meaning, speaking with vulgar verbose have been the standards, feature and hallmark of Dravidian stage speech, dialogue and discussion, whether on the stage or inside the Tamil Nadu state Assembly. Karunanidhi’s remarks against T. N. Anatha Nayaki[1], Jeyalalita[2] and others have been too well-known to be repeated here. As for as theism is concerned, it has been anti-Hindu only and they ave never commented or talked against Mohammedans of Christians. Their commonality has been to attend Ifter and Christmas parties, eat with them and comment upon the Hindu festivals in contrast.  Karunanidi has been the trend setter in this aspect. If all of his comments are compiled, a book can be brought out.

Stalin anti-hindu, Indian Express

Stalin’s clarification came of April Fool’s Day: DMK president M K Stalin 01-04-2019, Monday asserted that his party was not against any religion[3] and deprecated what he called a disinformation campaign that his outfit was an “enemy of Hindus.” Ironically, the day has been “Fools Day,” commemorated on April 1st by playing practical jokes and spreading hoaxes. The jokes and their victims are called April fools. People playing April Fool jokes often expose their prank by shouting “April fool(s)” at the unfortunate victim(s). Some newspapers, magazines and other published media report fake stories, which are usually explained the next day or below the news section in smaller letters. Aside from April Fools’ Day, the custom of setting aside a day for the playing of harmless pranks upon one’s neighbour has historically been relatively common.

Stalin anti-hindu, Times Now

Jagathrakshakan might be a believer, but, Stalin not: The Dravidian party chief, addressing a poll rally near Pandianallur, Sholingur, Vellore, described his party nominee for the Arakkonam Lok Sabha constituency, S Jagathrakshakan, as a deeply spiritual man who spent his money during his previous tenure as MP to renovate hundreds of temples in Arakkonam, besides developing infrastructure and undertaking other welfare initiatives[4]. “Jagathrakshakan has another specialty. He is a deeply spiritual person[5]. Some are even today criticising DMK as an enemy of the Hindus. Are you saying this even after seeing him (Jagathrakshakan)..?” The DMK chief blamed sections of the media for deliberately creating a false impression that his party was against the Hindus[6]. It is not the question of Jagathrakshakan seen with him or DMK, but, the other way. He joined DMK, evidently, to break the Vanniyar vote, but, he did not want to be an atheist.

Abusing Hindu religions, Gurus and all, he allowed his first wife to portray before Sai Baba!

Abusing Hindu religions, Gurus and all, he allowed his first wife to portray before Sai Baba!

“…….we accepted God or not, he had accepted us”: Stalin said the party follows what late leaders CN Annadurai (Anna) and M Karunanidhi had spelt on the religion. “Anna had stated that onre kulam; oruvane devan (one God, one community)[7]. We are following this ideal. We are never against (the belief in) God,” he explained, adding Kalaignar (Karunanidhi) had said that whether we accepted God or not, he had accepted us[8]. Citing the popular dialogue “we are not against temples, our principle is that it should not become a camp of the wicked,” written by his late father M Karunanidhi in the 1952 Tamil film “Parasakthi,” he said the DMK had never been against those worshipping God[9].  Tamil Nadu people know very well about these leaders. When the Pillaiyar / Vinayaka idols were broken by EVR, the poonools cut by the Dravidian cadres, women attacked with virulent abusive language, no action was taken. Karunanishi had been more virulent and abusive in his language. And they have not been so spiritual, if at all of any spirituality, it is highly idiotic to claim that, “…….we accepted God or not, he had accepted us”!

Stalin anti-hindu, money control

Men blaspheming and wives worship – is this could be called as secular or showing equal respect to all religion or not anti-Hindu?: Stalin said his wife offered prayers at temples every day and added that he had never prevented her from visiting shrines since it was her wish[10]. Men blaspheming and wives worship – is this could be called as secular or showing equal respect to all religion or not anti-Hindu? Even, children may not agree with this type of logic. “They (sections of the media) are, however, indulging in a disinformation campaign that DMK is against the Hindus and temple worship,” he said and added that people are not ready to believe it. Stalin said when he took over as party chief last year, he categorically stated at the general council that he would be for all religions and against none; that his party would be on the side of all religions and not discriminate on the basis of caste or religion. “I had spoken categorically that DMK is not against any religion. However, continuously, sections of media and press are indulging in wrong propaganda. We are not worried about it as people are on our side,” he said.

When he went to housing board, one woman affectionately applied kumkum on his forehead, but, he erased immediately, and all onlookers were shocked!

When he went to housing board, one woman affectionately applied kumkum on his forehead, but, he erased immediately, and all onlookers were shocked!

Stalin’s attitude also is known to public: The top DMK leader’s assertion that his party was not against any religion comes nearly two months after a video clip surfaced on social media purportedly showing Stalin criticising Vedic ceremonies in Hindu weddings. After the two-year-old clip surfaced, the ruling AIADMK had accused Stalin of trying to divide people on religious lines. In the 1.28-minute video, Stalin purportedly takes potshots at “Vaidika,” Hindu marriages presided over by a Brahmin priest. The smoke from the yagna (havan) makes not only the bride and groom “cry a little,” but also those around to witness the ceremony and creates a sombre ambience, the DMK leader was seen purportedly commenting in the video. Rejecting claims that Stalin’s speech was offensive, a DMK spokesperson had said marriages sans ceremonies had all along been the cornerstone of the party’s ideology. “It is a two-year-old video clip and it has now been released seeking to gain political mileage by right wing supporters,” the spokesperson said and added that the video featured only a portion of Stalin’s speech. Stalin has been caught by the believers, when, he erased kumkum, Sandal paste applied on his forehead at two places. This has also created aversion against his attitude. Above all, these leaders wish on te occasion of festivals and celebrations of Mohammedans and Christians, but, they never participate in Hindu festivals. On the contrary, the DK mouth peace “Viduthalai” comes out with blasphemous articles and these leaders pass negative comments, that too, participating in their festivals.

Stalin response to The Hindu 23-09-2018

In 2018 also, the same issue cropped up, because of the attitude of Stalin: Last year, 2018, when a question, “You took a stand on God in the party’s general council for the first time[11]. Was it because you feel that it is difficult to run a campaign against God and religion, especially after the BJP’s growth?” was asked, Stalin, explained as follows[12]: “I would like to give a detailed reply. Anna proclaimed that there was “one God and one race”. He also said, “I would not break Pillaiyar, nor will I break coconut for him.” Kalaignar had reiterated this point many times. But a section is deliberately suppressing these facts and seeking to portray us as atheist and anti-Hindu. Kalaignar always had a non-partisan approach. He was not against faith in God or in religion (as his actions in government would prove). When I spoke about God, I kept in mind the ideas of Anna and Kalaignar. Contrary to your assumption, the DMK has never preached against God and religion”.

June 2018, SriRangam temple, Stalin, priest apply paste-Stalin removed-BJP

Stalin is afraid of losing Hindu votes: Now, because of elections and his anti-Modi tirade, he cannot justify his more rabid anti-Hindu hate speech, or his rants coming out through Verramani and others would not be ignored by the voters. As these leaders try to appeal Dravidian cadres by allowing their women folk to be so faithful to Hindu religion, but, talk nonsense and DMK talk less nonsence, but allow DK Veeramani to talk more nonsense,  people may not be so fools to keep quite. At one stage, they may retaliate as Hindus. That only, Stalin denies not want and now clarifies. As Rahul and Priyanka have started going to temples and doing all antics, Stalin also may visit few temples, like Titumavalavan, who talked openly that all temples should be destroyed. And Sathur Ramachandran has already unveiled their dubious plan, “We can easily fool Hindus by applying vibhudhi on our foreheads, they would vote for us”!

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03-04-2019

Sathur Ramachandran, former DMK minster claimed that they could easily fool Hindus, by applying vibhudhi on her foreheads and get votes

Sathur Ramachandran, former DMK minster claimed that they could easily fool Hindus, by applying vibhudhi on her foreheads and get votes

[1] T. N. Anandanayaki was an Indian politician and former Member of the Legislative Assembly of Tamil Nadu. She was elected to the Tamil Nadu legislative assembly as an Indian National Congress candidate from Basin Bridge (State Assembly Constituency).

[2] Caravan Magazine, When two titans clashed on the Tamil Nadu assembly floor, VINOD K. JOSE, 24 April 2014 ; https://caravanmagazine.in/vantage/titans-tn-assembly

[3] Times Now, Lok Sabha Elections 2019: DMK is not anti-Hindu, says DMK chief MK Stalin, Updated Apr 01, 2019 | 22:37 IST | PTI.

[4] https://www.timesnownews.com/elections/article/lok-sabha-elections-2019-dmk-is-not-anti-hindu-says-dmk-chief-mk-stalin/392809

[5] Money Cotrol, DMK is not anti-Hindu, says DMK chief M K Stalin, Last Updated : Apr 01, 2019 10:12 PM IST | Source: PTI

[6] https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india/dmk-is-not-anti-hindu-says-dmk-chief-m-k-stalin-3742811.html

[7] Indian Express, Some media organisations trying to tag DMK as ‘anti-Hindu’: Stalin, Published: 01st April 2019 01:08 PM | Last Updated: 01st April 2019 02:20 PM

[8] http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil-nadu/2019/apr/01/some-media-organisations-trying-to-tag-dmk-as-anti-hindu-stalin-1958741.html

[9] Business Standard, DMK is not anti-Hindu, says DMK chief M K Stalin, Press Trust of India | Vellore (TN)

Last Updated at April 1, 2019 21:05 IST

[10] https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/dmk-is-not-anti-hindu-says-dmk-chief-m-k-stalin-119040101205_1.html

[11] The Hindu, ‘Bid to portray DMK as anti-Hindu mischievous’, by B. Kolappan, SEPTEMBER 24, 2018 07:50 IST, UPDATED: SEPTEMBER 24, 2018 08:08

[12] https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/bid-to-portray-dmk-as-anti-hindu-mischievous/article25025286.ece

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy – Kamimozhi’s dubious talk about her visit to Tirumala (3)

January 13, 2018

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy – Kamimozhi’s dubious talk about her visit to Tirumala (3)

Kanimozhi-went to Tirumala-biometric

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Kanimozhi entering temple…

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- Kalyanakatta

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At Kalyana katta, where, devotees are given free tonsure – Kanimozhi seen listening to Venkauya Naidu.

Kanimozhi-went to Tirumala-standing at tonsure.2

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The women members had symbolic tonsure just cutting few strands of hair-bits or touching with scissors!

Kanimozhi-went to Tirumala-standing at tonsure

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The women members went in a queue – Kani in her turn!

Kanimozhi’s visit to Tirumala in 2012 and criticism made in 2017: Kanimozhi, the Rajya Sabha MP claimed that she visited Tirumala, as a member of the Committee under Venkaiah Naidu, during her controversial speech made at the WAC, Trichy on 06-01-2018. She had claimed that she had recently visited the popular Tirupati Tirumala temple in Andhra Pradesh[1]. Kanimozhi said she, along with some other MPs, was taken to the temple by Vice President Venkaiah Naidu, as a part of a Home Affairs Committee, through a special route arranged for the group[2].  “If you give more money and buy a ticket you get special dharsanam [visit]. If not, you stand for 10 hours, 20 hours or two days. That is god………He (accompanied MP) told me that all their wishes are being granted and they are being protected…I then asked him, there is a money collection box right in front of the god. Why is there a security personnel with a stun gun protecting it? People who run the temple are not confident that god can protect the money collection box. Why should I believe in god?”…..” When TNM contacted Kanimozhi she was unfazed by the opposition that the speech has garnered[3]. “Whatever happens, I will face it legally. I said this at an Atheist Conference,” she says[4]. This made me to dig into her visit, because, as an atheist, she should not have visited the temple. The background of the visit and the details are as follows.

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- viwing queue

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Why and how Kanimozhi visited Tirumala and also SHAR, and Kalpakkam in November 2012?: As a part of a Home Affairs Committee, kanimozhi visited the Tirumala temple on November 12, 2012. The team paid a visit to both –

  • the pilgrim-choked Vaikuntam queue complexes,
  • Kalyanakatta and
  • Matrusri Tarigonda Vengamamba free meals complex and
  • the TTD-run Aswini hospital[5].

Prominent among others who were present were included members of the committee –

  1. Kanimozhi,
  2. Raman Deka,
  3. Santosh Chowdary,
  4. Ravneet Singh,
  5. Neeraj Sekhar,
  6. TTD Executive Officer L.V. Subramanyam,
  7. JEO K.S. Srinivasa Raju,
  8. CVSO G.V.G. Ashok Kumar
  9. and others[6].

The Parliamentary Standing Committee on Home Affairs headed by BJP leader Venkaiah Naidu on Friday (November 12, 2012) expressed satisfaction over the security arrangements being made by the Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD) atop the sacred shrine of Lord Venakteswara. Talking to media persons, Mr. Naidu said that the committee has been visiting several important places in the country, including Tirumala, SHAR, and Kalpakkam to study the existing security mechanism at all the places. He said that the committee was also scheduled meet the top brass of the TTD officials, intelligence officials and the officials of the State Home Department on Saturday in Tirupati wherein issues relating to disaster management and security mechanism will be discussed. Besides this, the committee will also discuss issues relating to the marine security in the coastal belt apart from the proposal to bring Tirumala under the ‘no-fly’ zone category. The TTD authorities on their part explained to the team the various initiatives being adopted by the temple administration towards crowd management, queue system and the amenities being extended to pilgrims visiting Tirumala.

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- viwing queue-2

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Kanimozhi had special darsham tirth, prasad and saree: There have been many official reports, videos of the TTD and TV channels, News reports in English and Telugu as to why she visited the temple, what she did and other details:

  1. Kanimozhi visited the Tirumala temple on November 12, 2012 as a part of a Home Affairs Committee, to inspect the security arrangements being made by the Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD).
  2. She met the top brass of the TTD officials, intelligence officials and the officials of the State Home Department on Saturday in Tirupati wherein issues relating to disaster management and security mechanism.
  3. She verified the various initiatives being adopted by the temple administration towards crowd management, queue system and the amenities being extended to pilgrims visiting Tirumala.
  4. She had gone to Kalyanakatta where tonsure is made that involves hygiene and other issues. When two women member had symbolic tonsure, she was there and joined them.
  5. Went to Pushkarni to note the maintenance, refilling of water etc.
  6. She had special darshan of Sri Venkatswara, had tirth and prasadam. She also received a saree given by the TTD.
  7. Went to free-meals section, inspected the vessels for the cooking of food that is fed to thousands daily.
  8. Went to laddu counter, where, laddu and other prasadams were given free to her.
  9. She visited the temple to pray Sri Venkateswara to clear all problems, she was facing.

 

 

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- entering inside

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Kanimozhi crossing Vaikundam entry entrance….

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- way to Darshan

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Reaching “Way to Darshan”!!!!

What Kanimozhi spoke on 06-01-2018 at the WAC: From 12-11-2012 to 06-01-2018, what happened to he exposes her psyche.

What Kanimozhi talked Comments
 “If you give more money and buy a ticket you get special dharsanam [visit]. First of all, as an atheist, you should not have visited the temple.

As even when non-Hindus visit, they sign a form that I believe in Sri Venkateswara, you must have signed.

If not, Venkaiya Naidu should be held responsible for violating the norms.

As they went to inspect, evidently, they signed.

 If not, you stand for 10 hours, 20 hours or two days. That is god……… You should have waited, paid and went side, but, you enjoyed VVVVIP darshan! Shame, atheist, shame!!
That is Kanimozhi, the principle-less atheist, and thus,anti-Hindu!
He (accompanied MP) told me that all their wishes are being granted and they are being protected…I then asked him, there is a money collection box right in front of the god. Why is there a security personnel with a stun gun protecting it? The Telugu people explicitly answered that people like you might loot, that is why they stand with guns.

Moreover, as you had gone there to inspect the security aspects, you could not have made such idiotic statement!

People who run the temple are not confident that god can protect the money collection box. Why should I believe in god?”….. Shame on you, idiotic that we have MP like you and allowing you inside the temple.
Perhaps, you had gone inside to know the security arrangement to attack!
If that God does not protect, I say that God is not there….. Had you gone there to inspect the security aspects, or the existence of Go?

Your blabbering exposes your honesty, integrity and sincerity as a MP.

Thus, it is evident that by all means, the MP has lost her credibility and she should be stripped of MP post or she should resign immediately.

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- Annadhana

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Inspecting the “Free Meals – Prasad Hall”….

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- Laddu counter-

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Posing for photo before “Annadhana Hall, building”

Kanimozhi-why you went to Tirumala

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Coming out………………….”If you do not believe……why you enter the temple, had darshan, taken tirth and prasad, the saree……………..prayed to him to remove your problems?”. The AP people openly revealed that she came here to pray “Venkayya” to relieve her from 2G case!

Cong MLC, P Sudhakar Reddy condemns Kani on 12-01-2018

Complaints made against Kanimozhi: The local BJP leaders led by former TTD Board member G Bhanu Prakash Reddy submitted a written complaint to Urban ASP Srinivasulu against DMK MP Kanimozhi here on Thursday, (11-01-2018) for hurting the religious beliefs of Hindus[7]. She made adverse comments on the Lord Venkateswara at Tirumala at a Tiruchi meeting in Tamil Nadu[8]. Rayalaseema Porata Samithi (RPS) convener P Naveen Kumar Reddy has condemned the DMK MP comments against the presiding deity of Tirumala. He demanded that the state government’s Endowments department take legal action against Kanimozhi. The RPS activists staged a dharna near Alipiri. Ironically, in Tamilnadu, the so-called Hindutwavadis, Sangh-parivar, BJPwalas and other “Hindus” have been keeping quite for unknown reasons. The foreign delegates and other responsible delegates who attended the WAC should take care of the facts.

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Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- Laddu counter-

Photo courtesy: TTD

[1] Scroll.in, Tamil Nadu: Complaint filed against DMK MP Kanimozhi for allegedly hurting religious beliefs, Published : 12-01-2018· 07:34 pm Updated 12-01-2018 · 07:58 pm.

[2] https://scroll.in/latest/864727/tamil-nadu-complaint-against-dmk-mp-kanimozhi-for-allegedly-hurting-religious-beliefs

[3] TheNewsMinute, Why does god need gunman to protect hundiyal?’: Kanimozhi’s speech rankles Hindu group, Priyanka Thirumurthy, Thursday, January 11, 2018 – 14:05.

[4] https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/why-does-god-need-gunman-protect-hundiyal-kanimozhi-s-speech-rankles-hindu-group-74554

[5] The Hindu, Panel inspects security measures in Tirumala, TIRUMALA:, NOVEMBER 10, 2012 03:29 IST; UPDATED: NOVEMBER 10, 2012 03:29 IST. UPDATED: NOVEMBER 10, 2012 03:29 IST

[6] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/panel-inspects-security-measures-in-tirumala/article4082515.ece

[7] THE HANS INDIA, Case against DMK MP for hurting religious beliefs, Jan 12, 2018 , 01:32 AM IST.

[8] http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Andhra-Pradesh/2018-01-12/Case-against-DMK-MP-for-hurting-religious-beliefs/351590

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (2)

January 12, 2018

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (2)

WAC, Trichy - second day, paper presenters

The First Day paper reading session (05-01-2018): The WAC organizers kept the paper reading session inside and the public meetings open. The first day (05-01-2018) paper reading proceedings were held at Periyar Maniammai University campus, Vallam. On the theme, “Atheism – Hope for Humanity”, Three parallel sessions were held, where, 38 delegates participated and presented 28 papers. Of which 13 were taken for discussion.

WAC, Trichy - paper presenter-bald, looks north Indian

In first session, was conducted with Balwinder Barnala, Tarkkaasila Sangha, as chair-person and , Dr Samarasam, Vijyawada Atheist Centre, as moderator.

Kadesh Godherao, Maharastra Antastrata Nirmulam Samiti, read a paper on the topic, “Atheism is for the Progress of Humanity”.

Kumanarajan, editor of “Tamil Lemuria”, Mumbai presented a paper on “Threats of religious fundamentalism, Problems and Solutions.”

WAC, Trichy - paper presenter-gold-spec-nald-white

In the second session was chaired by Prof Ilakkuvan, Director, Periyar Centre, USA and P. Sabasiva Rao, Treasurer, Telengana-Hyderabad Manava Vikasha Vedika, moderated.

Prof Sam George, American College, spoke on, “Atheism – Way of Life.” M. Govindasamy, Malaysia Dravidar Sangam, Kulalampur spoke on, “Dravidian Movement in Malaysia”.

Dr R. Gauthaman, Periyar Medical Mission, spoke on “Medicine and Atheism.”

However, most of the papers were of generalized, rehashing the already known details and targeting Hindu religion for superstition and so on. Emphasis was given for in between Peiyar and Dravidian movement. The atheist arguments had been against ontological, teleological, cosmological points, but, they could not put forward any new points. The age-old theist-atheist arguments on these lines have been too well-known to be repeated here.

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- looks Tamilian, with coat

paper presenter

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- looks Tamilian, with white coat.

paper presenter

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- old man, spec, bald, white

Vijayan

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- old man, spec, bald

paper presenter

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- old man, spec, grey hair

paper presenter

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- Sikh

Balwinder Barnala

WAC, Trichy - paper presenter-spec, shirt-half-coat

paper presenter

DK opposing Rajini-

Atheism versus Spirituality – debate started: Speakers propagating atheist philosophy slammed religious beliefs, especially in Hinduism, at the World Atheist Conference here on Friday (05-01-2018). The concept of spiritual politics espoused by superstar Rajinikanth also came in for sharp criticism. It is not known as to why Rajni’s politics should be attacked and criticized in the “World Atheist Conference”. Evidently, as Trichy has been strong base of Rajini’s fans and his political ambitions would erode the Dravidian polity and as well as the prospects of DMK, the WAC has been exploited to attack Rajini politics.  Though Rajini’s concept was much debated over the past few days, some speakers found it nascent and lacking clarity. However, Dravida Kazhagam leader K. Veeramani aid that people propagating ideology of spiritual politics would be exposed sooner than later. Speaking on the sidelines of the conference, he said spiritual politics was nothing but a tool that might be used to deceive people. Politics was in no way related to spirituality. Spiritual politics stressed on the existence of spirit which was called ‘Atma’. The aim of the conference was to counter the very existence of spirit through philosophical arguments. Those trying to mislead people in the name of spirit would be exposed soon, he said. Ironically, even the atheist religions like Jainism and Buddhism believed “Atma”, rebirth, etc.

WAC, Trichy, Kanimozhi

During public session, Rajinikantha’s “Spiritual Politics” attacked: Lakshman Tamil from Periyar International, USA said that those thinking about starting a political party in the state could not ignore Periyar or Dravidian movement for their brand value. He said that one could become popular in the state by invoking the name of Periyar. Lakshman recalled how his father had told him to be honest also when he expressed his wish to become an atheist like Thanthai periyar. Periyar had set high standards to be an atheist, he said. aking a jibe at Rajini, Dravidian Tamil Federation general secretary Suba Veerapandian said that a person had recently visited Gopalapuram (the residence of DMK leader M Karunanidhi) to seek his blessings[1]. But little did he know that he could only get rationalist lessons from the leader and not his blessings[2]. Rationalists and atheists had been criticising the actor for giving his political move a religious colour. Though Rajinikanth had come out in the open with a statement clarifying his stand, not many seemed to be convinced.

WAC-3, Times of India

“Dravidian philosophy is the only alternative to Hindutva”: Untouchability is the worst tyranny any part of the world has ever seen. So is the caste system. And these are practiced in the name of God, said Dravida Kazhagam leader K Veeramani here on Friday (05-01-2018). Speaking at the World Atheism Conference 2018 in Trichy, Veeramani said India is land of atheism, not temples. Atheism is not just the denial of religion, but denial of all superstitions associated with it too. He said atheism dated back to 1500 CE in our country. Lakshman Tamil, Periyar International, USA, said caste system is the bane of India and society cannot progress as long as this Vedic system exists. Hinduism cannot claim that it is all-encompassing until it disowns the Vedas, he said. Buddhism and Jainism moved away from people and lost their relevance[3]. The Dravidar Kazhagam has created a populous atheist movement and it is the true Shramana movement of the modern time in terms of the core philosophy of atheism, he said. Terming Periyar’s atheism the most relevant, Lakshman Tamil said it is also a populous movement. Its multifaceted nature has also contributed to its popularity. “Dravidian philosophy is the only alternative to Hindutva. People have to choose between Hindutva, which is a Vedic tradition that is based on hate and segregates people in the name of caste, and Dravidian philosophy, which preaches self-respect,” said Lakshman Tamil[4].

WAC-3, Times of India- attacking Rajini

2G-Raja spoke on his atheism in Tihar and outside: Former Union telecom minister A Raja started off by thanking the CBI and the CAG for making him popular worldwide in the 2G spectrum case. “Being an atheist since teenage, his belief in atheism strengthened further during his imprisonment in the Tihar jail when he saw prisoners, who included rapists and murderers, making a beeline to offer oil to a figure of Saturn (Shani). Hinduism was used as a tool by upper caste people to keep a majority section poor by denying them education. This is a country where people are divided in terms caste. And this notion is created by religion”, he said. As many as 500 papers on atheism are going to be presented in the conference that is going to last for 3 days.

WAC-3, The Hindu, 06-01-2016

The Second Day paper reading session (06-01-2018): The seconday paper reading session was held in Einstein Auditorium, for which K. Veeramani chaired and  Narendra Naik, President, Indian Federation of Rationalist Associations acted as moderator. Devadoss welcomed the speakers and delegates. Elizabeth O’ Cassey delivered a special lecture.

Thaneswar Sahu, Philosopher professor and President of Odhisha Rationalist Association spoke on “Science, Scientific thinking – A Perspective.”

  1. Raja Kennedy, Rationalist Teachers Forum, spoke on, “Encouraging Scientific temper amomg the children”.
  2. Ramasamy, Professor and Rationalist from Madurai, spoke on “Atheist-Humanist Fighters Periyar and Gora”.

Suvinnila, Vice-President, Rationalist Association gave vote of thanks. Here, also, the speakers had repeated the points. They always tried to take “Science” as weapon against religious beliefs and dub them as “Superstition,” but, they could not tackle the issue of “Scientific superstition,” prevalent exploiting the public under forced propaganda, dubious advertisements and aggressive marketing.

WAc,Kanimozhi speaks

Rationalists attacked, women treated badly by all religions- Kanimozhi: The evening seession was held at Puthur Periyar auditorium, Trichy as a public meeting, in which Kanimozhi, Tirumavalavan, C. Vijayan (Director, Vijayawada Rationalist Centre) spoke. Atheist and rationalists all around the world are under threat, said Rajya Sabha MP K Kanimozhi on the second day of the World Atheist Conference, organised by Dravidar Kazhagam in Trichy on Saturday (06-01-2018)[5]. She hoped the believers or religious minded attending the conference see the “………….true light of Periyar. The people who have congregated here are already atheist. Even then why we have gathered? Why do we have to preach ourselves when we have already converted? But we have to come together to show that we are together and what humanity means to the world ……. said no religion treats women equal to a man in every aspect, be it Hinduism, Christianity or Islam……………All religion says a woman has to obey a man. Women have been denied their rights in every religion. That was the reason Periyar denied all religion…………..There are reformers and feminist around the world who are fighting for women’s rights. I respect all of them, but there is one true feminist in this world and that is Periyar……………Religion is nothing but fear. How much blood has been shed, how many wars have been fought in this world because of religion?…………..God has never killed anyone for their wrongdoing and has remained a spectator. He would never act or react………….There is a threat for all atheists and rationalists around the world. To show our strength, we all should stand united and fight against hatred. Atheism and humanism are the only truths,” she said[6]. The Scroll.in just reproduced that TOI reported[7]. Irony that their correspondents, colunists or reporters could not add more than that TOI published[8].

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10-01-2018

WAC-3, Veeramani, Raja, Elizabeth

[1] Times of India, Atheists slam Rajinikanth’s spiritual politics, K Sambath Kumar| TNN | Jan 6, 2018, 08:37 IST

[2] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/atheists-slam-rajinikanths-spiritual-politics/articleshow/62385950.cms

[3] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/madurai/dravidian-philosophy-is-the-only-alternative-to-hindutva/articleshow/62386831.cms

[4] Times of India, ‘Dravidian philosophy is the only alternative to Hindutva’, TNN | Updated: Jan 6, 2018, 00:18 IST.

[5] Times of India, Rationalists under threat all over the world: Kanimozhi, TNN | Jan 7, 2018, 08:25 IST.

[6] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/rationalists-under-threat-all-over-the-world-kanimozhi/articleshow/62397776.cms

[7] Scroll.in, Atheists and rationalists all over the world are under threat: DMK MP Kanimozhi, by  Scroll Staff, Published 07-01-2018, · 10:49 am

[8] https://scroll.in/latest/864115/atheists-and-rationalists-all-over-the-world-are-under-threat-dmk-mp-kanimozhi

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (1)

January 11, 2018

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (1)

WAC-3, Viduthalai front page

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted with tall claims: The World Atheist Conference 2018 (hereinafter mentioned as WAC) was conducted with tall claims made on January 5th to 7th 2016 at Trichy. It was commenced here with an emphasis on setting right in equalities in the society, quelling superstitions, and propagating rationalistic thinking. Titled ‘Atheism – Hope of Humanity’ and what not, the three-day program organised jointly by the Dravidar Kazhagam, Atheist Centre, Vijayawada and The Rationalists’ Forum witnessed delegates representing rationalist organisations in different parts of India and other countries, taking part in the inaugural and plenary sessions, and presenting their views on an array of topics that included atheism, religious fundamentalism, and medicine and atheism[1]. Presiding over, K. Veeramani, president, Dravidar Kazhagam, said atheism in India means much beyond non-belief in supernatural and religious rituals, and that the prime focus was on rectifying untouchability in the society perpetuated in the name of religion, and denial of education on the basis of birth[2].

WAC, Trichy - foreign delegates, Nadaswaram

Features of the Conference (as claimed by the organizers): As claimed by the organizers, Atheist – Humanists around the world participate in the conference, besides the leaders of various atheist, rationalist and humanist organizations from all the States of the country, Paper presentations by atheist scholars and activists followed by deep deliberations on the different perspectives of atheist philosophy, form the major part of the conference proceedings, Sharing of religion-free living culture in various countries / societies and churning up the substance on living free from the fear of god, enabling humanity to progress and peace, Revealing the success, in establishing the egalitarian society free from the belief of non existing ‘god’ through the services of organizations and movements by atheist philosophers and Documenting the pioneering role rendered by atheist movements in the East during the early historical period.

Garry McLelland-WAC, Trichy

The Rationalists’ Forum: The Rationalists’ Forum claims that it, “is a Humanist Movement founded by Periyar in 1971 and presently patronised by Dr. K. Veeramani, President, Dravidar Kazhagam. It is a unique movement, because of the composition of membership and the activities. People who are committed to Periyar ideology and employed in various organisations – government, public private co-operative have shouldered the responsibility of preaching and practicing rationalistic ideals”. The activities include organising meetings, seminars, science exhibition, superstition exposure show to develop scientific temper and humanism among the public. Many State and Central Ministers, Vice Chancellors of Universities, educationalists, officials who are at helm of affairs to-day were the earlier functionaries of The Rationalists’ Forum.

Elizebeth WAC trichy

The Organizers of the Atheist Conference[3]: The organizers have been:

  1. Dravidar Kazhagam (Tamil Nadu), Atheist Centre (Vijayawada) and
  2. The Rationalists’ Forum (Tamil Nadu) jointly organise World Atheist Conference 2018.

WAC is the ideological confluence of atheist, rationalist and humanist fraternity from the countries – England, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, United States etc. and from all the States of India. WAC proceedings cover seminar and sittings with lecture delivery and paper presentation on the various dimensions of atheism , rationalism and humanism. Film show, video presentations, science exhibition, book fair are planned. A massive public procession with demonstrations exposing superstition is scheduled. A Souvenir containing essays, real stories, personal experiences of eminent persons on atheism and allied ideologies gets released on the occasion. Many leaders and persons of eminence from State and Central Governments, educationalists intellectuals participate in the proceedings.

WAC, Trichy - stage-1

Were foreign delegates conscious of the Dravidian atheism?: The foreign delegates attended the conference, but, what they spoke was not revealed by the organizers, the media and the participants:

  1. Gary McLelland[4], Chief Executive, International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU), London[5], and
  2. Avinash Patil, Executive President, Maharashtra Andhrashraddha Nirmoolan Samithi, Pune, Maharashtra, were the other guest speakers.
  3. Elizabeth O’ Cassey[6], Director of Advocasy – IHEU, Brussels, Belgium, inaugurated an exhibition of books at the Atheist Book Centre. Rustam Singh, Atheist Alliance International, USA;
  4. Suba Veerapandian, General Secretary, Dravidian Tamil Federation; and
  5. Rajaratnam, Pro-Chancellor, Periyar Institute of Science and Technology (Deemed to be University), Vallam, Thanjavur also spoke.

Five books were released on the occasion: ‘Bhagavad Gita – Myth or Mirage,’ and ‘March of Atheism’ authored by Veeramani, Compilation of ‘Old Testament of Indian Atheism’ by Surendra Anjat, ‘Essays on Matters which Matter’ (A Rationalist’s Perception) by S. Rajaratnam, and Compilation of ‘Revolt’ published by Periyar in 1928 and 1929. It is evident that Compilation of ‘Old Testament of Indian Atheism’ by Surendra Anjat, and conspicuously, there was no book released about the position of atheism in Islam or existence of “Islamic atheists”. As happened in 2011, this year also, most of the foreign delegates came and attended did not know about DK, EVR, Dravidian atheism etc., as they talk about Humanism, human rights, etc.

WAC-3, women delegates from north

Inaugural session: During the inagural session, A. Raja, Sp. Suba Veerapandian, Gary McLelland, Elezabet O’Cassey, Avinash Patil and others spoke and thereafter, papers were presented. Ironically, A. Raja, former Union Minister of Telecommunication (who was in jail for 2G scam, came out on bail and acquitted by the Court recently), said he has been deriving inner strength from atheism. Ironically, the DK-ideologists talked as usual rhetoric with verbose without any new points. As usual, they made “stage-type” talk in Tamil and using few words and sentences in English to show off that it was an international conference. Ironically, the delegates came from Pujab, Maharastra, Andhrapradesh and Kartataka were talking in their mother tongue and Hindi when they conversed with each other. The same thing happened during the All India Atheist Conference held  at Periyar Tidal in May 2010, where, one invitee spoke in Hindi and it was translated by the DK ideologist. Now also, K. Veeramani during his speech accepted that the language bearer exists among the delegates coming from those states. Incidentally, their anti-Hindi stand gets exposed here, as with Tamil alone or any particular regional language alone, they cannot do anything.

© Vedaprakash

10-01-2018

WAC-3, Balwindern Barnala, before EVR statue

[1] The Hindu, Atheit conference gets under way, The Special Correspondent, TIRUCHI, JANUARY 06, 2018 00:00 IST; UPDATED: JANUARY 06, 2018 03:49 IST.

[2] http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/world-atheist-conference-gets-under-way/article22380406.ece

[3] http://www.worldatheistconference.com/

[4] Gary joined IHEU in February 2017. Before this he worked for the Humanist Society Scotland since 2013 as Head of Communications and Public Affairs. He has also previously served as a director of the European Humanist Federation based in Brussels, as well as a board member of the Scottish Joint Committee on Religious and Moral Education. Before working in Humanist campaigning, Gary worked for a global citizenship project at the Mercy Corps European headquarters in Edinburgh, and also in policy and service delivery in education and social work. He has a BSc (hons) in psychology, a diploma in childhood and youth studies and master’s in human rights law, in which he researched the approach of the European Court of Human Rights and the United Nations’ approach to so-called ‘blasphemy laws’.

http://iheu.org/about/staff-and-representatives/

[5] International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU), 39 Moreland Street
London EC1V 8BB, United Kingdom, Office telephone: +44 20 7490 8468; From within the UK: 020 7490 8468

[6] Elizabeth started as director of advocacy in January 2016, after two years heading the IHEU’s delegation to the UN in Geneva. She focuses her work on freedom of religion or belief, freedom of expression, LGBT rights and the rights of women, particularly in relation to religious, traditional and cultural practices. Elizabeth manages IHEU advocacy work at a number of institutions, including at the UN in Geneva, New York and Paris, the Council of Europe, the OSCE and Africa Commission on Human and Peoples Rights. She is also a Vice Chair of the UN NGO Committee on Freedom of Religion or Belief (in Geneva), an International Patron for the Pink Triangle Trust and an International Advisor at the Raif Badawi Foundation. Elizabeth has a PhD in International Political Theory from the London School of Economics, where she was a Michael Leifer Scholar. She has spent time as a Global Justice fellow at Yale University, worked in various policy and advocacy positions in the UK and EU, and has also worked as a consultant on sexual and reproductive health and rights. She is based in Brussels.

http://iheu.org/about/staff-and-representatives/

Tying Sacred thread to pigs, cutting of sacred threads of Brahmins, Dravidian radicalism and anti-Brahminism: Dravidian Prohits becoming dominant!

August 11, 2017

Tying Sacred thread to pigs, cutting of sacred threads of Brahmins, Dravidian radicalism and anti-Brahminism: Dravidian Prohits becoming dominant!

N. Ram and DK- Veeramani - Murasoli 10-08-2017

The Dravidianization of Marxist Hindu: During 197o, the Dravida Kazhagam extremists had been emboldened with the DMK rule and started attacking Brahmins on every pretext.  In thos days, the cutting of sacred thread and attacking of one Ganapathy, Brahmin employee of “The Hindu” was famous[1], as it was nicknamed as “Mount Road Maha Vishnu” by Karunanidhi. With the labouur activities of Ramajayam, DMK leader, the offices of “The Hindu” slowly came under the grip of Dravidian polity. When Kanimozhi was divorced and mentally disturbed, she was accommodated in the editorial office of “The Hindu”. Priya daughter of Ranganathan was married to Dayanidhi Maran and thus, “The Hindu” has been “dravidianized” with all the dominant Marxism. Now, N. Ram inaugurated the Platinum Jublie of “Murasoli” on 10-08-2017 evidently his relative’s daily and praised the Dravidian movement like anything just sitting by the side of K. Veeramani! Ironically, Kamal Hassan, another Brahmin also was there to praise the “Dravidian civilization”! Here, it has to be mentioned categorically that though Ram and Kamal have been Brahmins, they have been completely secularlized enough to be more anti-Hindu. Thus, this event took place incidentally, three days after the incidence of tying sacred threads to four or five pigs by another radical wing of Dravidar Kazhagam.

Sacred thgread to pigs - Priyanka- 07-08-2017

“Poonool to Pings” ceremony carried on the road with violence: The story was reported apologetically as Priyanka Tirumurthy wrote that, “The poonool turns a Parappan into a Brahmin and a Tamilian into a Shudhran” – This startling message is embossed on a poster that carries the image of a pig wearing the ‘sacred thread’, or poonool (or poonal) as it is called by Tamil brahmins[2]. Circulated by the Thanthai Periyar Dravidar Kazhagam (TPDK), the poster is an invite to an event where pigs would be adorned with the poonool, in a symbolic protest against Brahminism. ‘Panrikku Poonool podum porattum’, a protest where pigs will be made to wear the holy thread, was set to be held at the Sanskrit College in Chennai on 7 August 2017. The day marks Avani Avittam, which is a sacred day for Brahmins in Tamil Nadu. It is on this day that they change their sacred threads in a yearly ceremony. According to the TPDK, holding a protest on this day will create shockwaves amongst the Brahmin community[3]. “Brahmins wear the poonool because they want to differentiate themselves from other castes and make themselves seem superior,” says S Kumaran, Chennai President of the TPDK. “By default, the society views being compared to a pig as an insult and so we decided to use the animal,” he explains. According to this Dravidian fringe group, resentment towards Brahmins has seen a dip over the last decade but they are hoping to revive the sentiment in the state.

Sacred thgread to pigs - India today 07-08-2017

So, why plan this provocative protest now?: “With the BJP in power at the Centre, the RSS, which is basically a Brahmin outfit, has gained too much power. This is aimed at countering any effort to suppress the lower castes,” says Kumaran. When asked about the attacks of the intermediate castes on Dalits, he said, “Yes, Gounders and Vanniyars discriminate and incite violence against Dalits. But why do they do it? It is because centuries back, Brahmins created the four varnas and a hierarchy of superiority.” Last year, the TPDK tried to burn effigies of Lord Rama, Sita and Lakshmana to symbolically show opposition to ‘Aryan invasion’, a theory which has since been discredited. Now, walls across the city are painted with invitations to this anti-Brahmin protest. Anyway, the Marxist Brahmin Ram or the atheist Brahmin Kamal never cared for this and the ceremony went on well with the blessings of Periyar from the heavens. The position of  “Papatti” is not known.

PDk gang with police - a pig was caught- 07-08-2017

Indifferent Hindutwavadis: The Tamil Nadu BJP is, unsurprisingly, not impressed by this. “How can you ridicule something that is very personal to a community? If they think the sacred thread doesn’t make anyone superior, why even protest against it?” ask BJP youth wing President for Tamil Nadu, SG Suryah[4]. “They are also forgetting that it is not just Brahmins who wear this thread,” he adds. Aravindan Neelakandan, writing for the right-wing magazine Swarajya, argues that many communities like potters, carpenters and goldsmiths also don the sacred thread. Valluvars, Purohits and astronomers of Parayar community are also known to wear the sacred thread, he says, adding that wearing the sacred thread is not exclusive to one set of people. “But this is not socially accepted,” says Kumaran. “Nowhere in the vedas does it say that nobody but Brahmins can wear this thread,” he claims. What’s more, the Dravidian outfit is aware that they would not receive police permission to conduct this event. “But we will manage to carry this out without approval from the police,” says Kumaran[5]. Note: The TDPK has since changed their poster, which has been reflected here. An error in the name of the TDPK spokesperson has also been rectified.

Sacred thgread to pigs-PDMK went to court- - Indian Express- 05-08-2017

When TPDK went to court, the Hindu advocates did not care (04-08-2017): A writ plea has been made in the Madras High Court for a direction to the authorities concerned to grant permission to the Thanthai Periyar Dravidar Kazhagam (TPDK) to conduct the ‘poonool to pig’ (varaham) festival in front of the Sanskrit College in Mylapore on Avani Avittam on August 7, 2017[6]. Justice M S Ramesh, before whom the petitions from two Kazhagam functioneries came up on Friday, posted the matter to Tuesday (August 8) after directing the Public Prosecutor to file the counters[7]. It also prayed to the court to grant permission to conduct Ravana Leela at the same venue on August 7, 2017. According to the petitioner, a community called Parpanar conducts an event called Avani Avittam on Avittam Natchatram, which falls on August 7. On that day they wear a thread made up of cotton called poonool in the name of upanayanam. The story behind wearing poonool is that once a poonool is worn by a Parpanar he will get a rebirth and will be equated to God. Burning the effigies of Rama, Lakshmana and Seetha will form part of the Ravana Leela[8]. When the petitioners approached the Mylapore police for permission, the latter not only refused the nod but also threatened them with preventive arrests[9]. In spite of the Court direction, the drama went on as reported and videographed.

PDௐ gang -Another person with police - caught by police- 07-08-2017

Four or five pigs brought tied, dragged on the road with dying of one pig: A pro-Dravidian group brought Chennai’s Royapettah to a standstill by attempting to make pigs wear holy threads on the road. Volunteers of Thanthai Periyar Dravida Kazhagam (TPDK) brought four pigs near the AIADMK headquarters and tried to make them wear holy threads as a protest against Brahminical ideology and casteism. They named this festival “adorning poonool (holy thread) to pig”, on the day of Aavani Aavitam, a day Brahmins consider sacred. TPDK cadres said that by wearing the ‘poonool,’ Brahmins consider themselves to be superior, and that attempts were made to make pigs wear them to break this thought process. Even though hundreds of cops were stationed in Royapettah, TPDK volunteers released the pigs on the road, frightening the commuters[10]. Police then detained the protesters and seized the pigs[11]. Last year [2016], the same group burnt effigies of the Hindu deities Rama and Sita in protest.

PDk gang with police - pigச் secured by police- 07-08-2017

Blue cross and other right activists kept quite: Virtually, none cared for this cruel act of dragging pigs on the road with mouth died and probably drugged, as otherwise, they would have created hell on the roads. In English, it is said that “Pig” means young and “Swine” is aged. Animal activists say this happens every year. They also say that such acts in fact end up giving more prominence to the caste that they are fighting against. In the video, a couple of guys allegedly belonging to the Dravida group are seen dragging the pig with the sacred thread[12]. This incident reportedly happened on August 7 in Chennai near AIADMK office. This is also seen as a deliberate action against Brahmins[13]. Periyar said, “If you happen to see a snake and a Brahmin, kill Brahmin and leave snake”, so if the faithful followers had realy belief in their Guru, they must have chosen “Snake” instead of  pigs to perform their radical ritual. However, they have chosen the pigs, that too tied.

© Vedaprakash

11-08-2017


PDk gang with police - a pig secured by police- 07-08-2017

[1] It is not known whether V. Ganapathy mentioned in this article is the same Ganapathy of 1970s.

http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/i-was-attacked-dk-members-1989-reporting-attacks-brahmins-i-let-them-get-away

[2] The Quint, TN Outfit to Make Pigs Wear Sacred Thread to Protest Brahminism, Priyanka Thirumurthy, Updated: 22 July, 2017 6:34 PM IST.

[3] https://www.thequint.com/politics/2017/07/22/dravidian-outfit-to-make-pigs-wear-sacred-threads

[4] The News Minute, Dravidian outfit to make pigs wear sacred thread on Avani Avittam day to protest Brahminism, Priyanka Thirumurthy, Saturday: 22 July, 2017 6:34 PM IST.

[5] http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/dravidian-outfit-make-pigs-wear-sacred-thread-avani-avittam-day-protest-brahminism-65563

[6] Indian express, Plea to permit ‘poonool to pig’ festival on Aug 7, By Express News Service  |   Published: 05th August 2017 01:28 AM  | Last Updated: 05th August 2017 07:27 AM.

[7] http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/2017/aug/05/plea-to-permit-poonool-to-pig-festival-on-aug-7-1638604.html

[8] The News Minute, Dravidian group moves Madras HC seeking permission for ‘Pig Poonal’ event, Saturday, August 05, 2017.

[9] http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/dravidian-group-moves-madras-hc-seeking-permission-pig-poonal-event-66293

[10] Indian today, Chennai: Pro-Dravidian group tries to make pigs wear holy threads to protest against casteism , Pramod Madhav | Edited by Ganesh Kumar Radha Udayakumar, New Delhi, August 7, 2017 | UPDATED 13:11 IST.

[11] http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/thanthai-periyar-dravida-kazhagam-chennai-protest-pigs-sacred-thread/1/1020481.html

[12] Asianet.newsable, Bearing the brunt of the anti-Brahmin movement, this pig is brutally tortured, Aug. 8, 2017, 11:24 a.m.

[13] http://newsable.asianetnews.tv/video/bearing-the-brunt-of-the-anti-brahmin-movement-this-pig-is-brutally-tortured

Hindu Temples of Tamilnadu under systematic destruction!

June 19, 2011

Hindu Temples of Tamilnadu under systematic destruction!

T. S. Subramanian has pointed out the deteriorating condition of murals in temples many times[1]. He should be congratulated to bring out such facts with concerned feelings expressed in his writings. However, the concerned and connected people have not taken any action to annul such vandalizing processes going on in the name of renovation, administration and other actions. The recent article “Targets of destruction” has been provoking, but we have to wait and see the response of the authorities.

Target of destruction: He starts with the appropriate beginning[2]: “Art, in more than 50 temples and three palaces in Tamil Nadu, is being mutilated” and explains the condition as follows: “Temples in Tamil Nadu are repositories of history, with inscriptions, sculptures, murals, bronzes, carvings, architecture and so on. The inscriptions provide valuable insights into the history of the period during which the temples were built, the village administration that prevailed, elections conducted for its assemblies, taxes collected, boards set up for the maintenance of lakes, ponds and canals, donation of land for Brahmin settlements, gifting gold for temple maintenance, etc.  There are more than 50 temples and three palaces in Tamil Nadu with murals. The palaces are Ramalinga Vilasam in Ramanathapuram and those at Bodinayakanur near Madurai and Padmanabhapuram in Kanyakumari district. While just four or five temples have murals dating back to the Pallava period (seventh to ninth century CE) and the Chola period (10th and 11th century CE), the majority of the murals belong to the Vijayanagar and the Nayak periods (14th to 17th century CE). The Brihadeeswara temple in Thanjavur have murals belonging to the Chola, the Nayak and the Maratha reigns.

Visual archivesThe mural masterpieces are visual archives on the history of the period, coronation rituals, the dress or the jewellery that men and women of those days wore, their hairstyle, musical instruments, the battles that they fought, the weapons used and so on. There are several Jain temples that have wonderful murals based on the Jain traditions, the Tirthankaras and the Yakshis. A favourite subject of many of the artists of those times was episodes from the Ramayana and the Mahabharata, and some of the artists even took care to write the labels for the episodes (captions) in Tamil or Telugu. Unfortunately in Tamil Nadu, the murals, the inscriptions, the sculptures and carvings have become targets of destruction and vandalism. The officials of the Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments (HR and CE) Department, who administers the temples, are to be blamed for this state. Most often, these officials fail to appreciate and preserve these splendid works due to lack of knowledge of history.

How Meenakshi Temple was targeted? In the famous Meenakshi temple, Madurai, several historic mandapams have become shopping complexes. The Pudhu mandapam, the Ashta Sakti mandapam, Veera Vasantharayar mandapam and Meenakshi Nayakar mandapam teem with hundreds of shops, obstructing from view pillars with incredibly beautiful sculptures. A scholar on the history of the Meenakshi temple was displeased that its 1,000-pillared mandapam, with superb sculptures, has become ‘a studio’ now, with an incongruously gleaming granite floor, skewed focus lights and a big sculpture of Nataraja painted in black! Several years ago, the earthen bed of the temple’s famous ‘Golden Lotus’ tank (Pottramarai Kulam) was cemented up, with the result that no water stays in the tank now and it looks barren now. The HR and CE officials of the temple also whitewashed hundreds of beautiful murals, painted on the walls of the northern corridor of the Golden Lotus tank, portraying the ‘Tiruvilaiyadal,’ in the first quarter of 1996.

In a state of disrepair: While sculptures and carvings can survive for centuries because they have been chiselled out of granite, murals are vulnerable to nature. Since these murals were painted with natural dyes on mandapam walls or ceiling, they easily lend themselves to vandalism from devotees. Besides, they are exposed to sun or seepage of water from rain. Gaps between the granite slabs that form the roof of the mandapams lead to seepage of water due to rain and the sidewalls begin to ‘sweat.’ The lime plaster which forms the base for the murals has a tendency to absorb the water. When rain water falls on the murals painted on the ceiling or walls, fungus develops and the murals start peeling off. Smoke from the camphor (lit by the devotees) and from the oil lamps damage the paintings. Besides, they suffer from desecration at the hands of the HR and CE officials and devotees. Officials have fixed scores of metres of electric wires on the murals on the walls of the mandapams, installed switch boxes and tube lights on them, as it has happened in several places on the splendid murals in the Devaraja Swamy temple at Kanchipuram, portraying the 108 Divya Desam murals.

Other examples of vandalism: Extremely rare murals painted on wood in the Tirukkutraleeswarar temple at Tirukkutrala Chitra Sabha in Tirunelveli district have been vandalised. At the Siva temple at Patteeswaram, paintings were sandblasted in 1998 in the name of cleaning the surfaces on which they were painted. The paintings portrayed Lord Siva presenting a palanquin studded with pearls to the Saivite saint Tirugnana Sambandar because he could not bear to see his devotee walking in the sun. Temple officials sandblasted another row of paintings narrating the life of a mythical king who had no child but was blessed with a child after praying to Siva at Patteeswaram. Officials of the Lakshminarasimhar temple at Sevilimedu, near Kanchipuram, whitewashed them. They do not exist today.  Tales of destruction and desecration of these invaluable murals in temples in Tamil Nadu do not end with this list. What happened to the paintings at the Meenakshi temple at Madurai, the Trilokyanatha Jaina temple at Tiruparuttikunram near Kanchipuram, another Jaina temple at Karanthai near Kanchipuram and the Ramalinga Vilasam Palace in Ramanathapuram town take the cake.

Why this targested vattcks of vandalism? What the Mohammedan and the Europeans rulers could have done during their reigns is carried on in India, that too, after “independence” by the Indians by themselves. Ironically, “Hindu Religious & Endowment Board” under the control of proclaimed atheist, rationalist and particularly anti-Hindu ideologists for the last 70 years. The staff and officers entering into the department of HR&CE have been ideologists of all sorts of such category and some non-Hindus have also been there. And this vandalism is not done on one day, but carried on systematically. Whenever any official function comes, they carry out such destruction easily under the guise of celebration. The moment the temple comes under the control of HR&CE, any official comes into a temple, an office is constructed inside temple, that office is converted into some sort of lodge and then star-type accommodation, the temples start losing their sanctity. Perhaps, God is leaving the place. Under such circumstances, these modern day vandals, ideologists and rulers start their destruction.


Atheist’s sermon on Ramayana!

May 17, 2007

Atheist’s sermon on Ramayana!

Three years back, I started blogging here, but, I switched over to http://www.indiainteracts.com.

However, as they stopped such facility suddenly, many of my writings, bloggig, comments etc., disappeared.

Therefore, I just want to revive, recollect and repost them, wherever possible.

This response was actually for one Nandivarman of Pondicherry, as he used to attack Hindus with his self-claimed atheism and so on.

My attention is drawn to your posting in WordPress.com.

I offer my comments to your post:

India was an island nation surrounded by seas hence it had the name நாவலந் தீவு.

Is to so? Kindly tell me, where the expression நாவலந் தீவு is found in the ancient Tamil literature or “Sangam” literature?

In such a scenario to claim that a Land Bridge built 1,750.000 years ago when no human being had inhabited the Earth

In haste, you are mentioning as 1,750 years (1,750.000 = 1750).

Paula Richman wrote a book titled “Many Ramayanas” Yes the question before us is to accept which Ramayana as true story?.

You claimed youself as a rationalist / atheist etc. Then, you have to be careful in quoting from secondary sources, because, non-Hindus or anti-Hindus can write anything and quoting such biased ideas make you unbecoming of a “rationalist / atheist”. You should have read H. D. Sankalia also before jumping into the so-called “debate”.

Your mention about Jain / Buddha Ramayanas: As Ramayana has become so popular, even Jains and Buddhists had to imitate Ramayana by changing the story, just like Kulandai. Therefore, there is nothing new in it. As a researcher or scholar or historian, you have to demythologize and find out the truth, instead of relying upon “such myth on myth”, straightaway.

[The biblical Adam and Eve’s story and its resemblance could also be taken note of] Sita becoming a monket after eating a fruit: This shows that either you have not read the story properly or misquoting or rather drawing wrong parallel with the biblical Adam and Eve (don’t try to escape by telling that I am a rationalist and all). I do not know as to whether Eve became monkey to have such forceful comparison!

You furthering the above story: Here, you are perhaps nearing the biblical fables, as Jesus also reportedly married to May Magdelene. Perhaps, you decided to not stretch it.

According to Thais, Hanuman had many affairs and children: Naturally, if the wishes are horses, even blind can fly. Why Thais, even Annba did it. As you are a rationalist and atheist, you quote all these things, so enjoy.Anna’s inconclusive debate on Kamba Ramayanam: “Navalar Somasundara Bharathiar and சொல்லின் செல்வர் R.P.Sethu Pillai debated with Anna and openly admitted they have lost the debate. This debate in Tamil Book “Let Fire Spread” தீ பரவட்டும் wants to illuminate Tamil hearts by symbolically burning Kamba ramayanam. Pulavar Kuzhanthai wrote இராவண காவியம் . Ravana Kavyam  can be considered as Dravidian version of Ramayanam”.No, they were ashamed of the perversity and vulgarity erupted in the name of literary flow and hanged their heads. Any Tamil knowing or reading person would hang his head after reading as it is just like “yellow journalism” circulated under the “Dravidian” banner, that too, coming from Anna, wjo became Chief Minister of Tamilnadu taking oath under the Indian Constitution, that has been written by Ambedkar. Anyway, the facts are as follows:

  • The so called debate was held in the auditorium of Law College, Madras on 09-02-1943 under Ramachandra Chettiyar.
  • Anna started speaking and took more than one and half hours leaving no time to others.
  • Pointing out the falsehood in his speech, R. P. Sethu Pillai openly spoke about his weakness in the argument. In fact, re ridiculed Anna for quoting from “Northern Nehru”, being a “Nakkiran” (one who always finds fault with others). Regretting that he could not speak for long time, he wound up his speech within ten minutes. He dared him that he would even come to Kanchipuram for another debate on the subject matter, if he would invite him.
  • Ezattu Adigal, who followed him, was asked to cut short his speech within five minutes.
  • Then Srinivasan started speaking, but he was prevented from speaking, as the DK activists created a riot-like condition. He had to stop his speech, because of the pandemonium created by them.
  • But, Anna was given a chance to speak again!
  • So that was the debate conducted with “freedom of speech” and respect for speakers!
  • However, winding up, C. M. Ramachandra Chetti concluded that he could not give his opinion, as the debate had been inconclusive.

The main point discussed was as to whether Ravana was an Aryan or Dravidian. Thus, the first debate had been the most undemocratic conducted under controlled conditions with rioters.

The second debate was conducted on 14-03-1943 at Devanga Padasalai, Sevvaipettai,  Salem. Salem College A. Ramasamy presided over Anna and Somasundara Bharathi spoke.

  • Anna spoke as usual taking full time
  • Somasundara Bharathi pointed out that Anna spoke as an orator with brimming emotion not as a debater. He then, however brought out his points refuting Anna;s talk.
  • He left, as his speech was over and moreover, he had to catch his train, as plannede by the organizers.
  • But, after his departure, Anna was given a chance and he stressed upon Ravana’s race and concluded with the demand of burning “scriptures of Aryans”.
  • A. Ramasamy, though did not gave any result about the debate, he pointed out that there was “vulgarity” in Kamba Ramayanam.

In any case, such diverted reference has nothing to do with the “Ramar’s Palam”.

The question before us which of these versions is based on true historical facts. These are not days where everyone will accept anything with blind faith. If you place new facts to reopen a settled issue in history, you should place facts and prove it”.

Yes, yes. Nowadays, everybody can get information easily and they decide about truth behind it.  Even in those days (when Anna debated), the other scholars were not allowed to speak or threatened with dire consequences. In other words, they used their own type of terrorism in those days. Now, let us see, how truth is faced.

Let us examine the falsehoods one by one. We from the Dravidian Movement are atheists but not Ravana; all know that Ravana as per epics is a devotee of Lord Siva. The doubt which arises to me is why should a reincarnation of God perform superhuman deeds to impress demigods? Does it mean that Demigods are more powerful than the Original God on reincarnation?

Interestingly, the answer is there in the so-called above debate, as they debated only about the race of Ravana as to whether he was an Aryan or Dravidian! Rationalist or atheist has to deny such myth. Having believed it as a myth, why one should worry about it as to whether it works or not? Without Ramayana myth, there is no Ravana. If Ramayana is myth, Ravana is also a myth. Then, why debate about his “racist credentials”?

There are many books on Indian Ocean. All these books give us evidences on the continental drift, the submerged lands of the Lemuria, which Tamils prefer to call as the Kumari Kandam”.

Yes, but note again, the western scholars do not believe in such hypotheses. Why them, even Indian eminent historians not only do not accept, but also dub them as myth.

Mr. Nandi Varman, go to Endo-eurasian group and other forums, where Tamil literature is misinterpreted and disrespected. Steve Farmer openly accuses that your friend R. Mathivanan is a foregerer. They go on debate even without knowing the fundamentals of Tamil and Tamil literature. I feel it is better spend your energy there instead of politicizing the issue.

VEDAPRAKASH,

Researcher,

Chennai.

vedamvedaprakash@yahoo.com