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The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy – Kamimozhi’s dubious talk about her visit to Tirumala (3)

January 13, 2018

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy – Kamimozhi’s dubious talk about her visit to Tirumala (3)

Kanimozhi-went to Tirumala-biometric

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Kanimozhi entering temple…

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- Kalyanakatta

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At Kalyana katta, where, devotees are given free tonsure – Kanimozhi seen listening to Venkauya Naidu.

Kanimozhi-went to Tirumala-standing at tonsure.2

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The women members had symbolic tonsure just cutting few strands of hair-bits or touching with scissors!

Kanimozhi-went to Tirumala-standing at tonsure

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The women members went in a queue – Kani in her turn!

Kanimozhi’s visit to Tirumala in 2012 and criticism made in 2017: Kanimozhi, the Rajya Sabha MP claimed that she visited Tirumala, as a member of the Committee under Venkaiah Naidu, during her controversial speech made at the WAC, Trichy on 06-01-2018. She had claimed that she had recently visited the popular Tirupati Tirumala temple in Andhra Pradesh[1]. Kanimozhi said she, along with some other MPs, was taken to the temple by Vice President Venkaiah Naidu, as a part of a Home Affairs Committee, through a special route arranged for the group[2].  “If you give more money and buy a ticket you get special dharsanam [visit]. If not, you stand for 10 hours, 20 hours or two days. That is god………He (accompanied MP) told me that all their wishes are being granted and they are being protected…I then asked him, there is a money collection box right in front of the god. Why is there a security personnel with a stun gun protecting it? People who run the temple are not confident that god can protect the money collection box. Why should I believe in god?”…..” When TNM contacted Kanimozhi she was unfazed by the opposition that the speech has garnered[3]. “Whatever happens, I will face it legally. I said this at an Atheist Conference,” she says[4]. This made me to dig into her visit, because, as an atheist, she should not have visited the temple. The background of the visit and the details are as follows.

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- viwing queue

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Why and how Kanimozhi visited Tirumala and also SHAR, and Kalpakkam in November 2012?: As a part of a Home Affairs Committee, kanimozhi visited the Tirumala temple on November 12, 2012. The team paid a visit to both –

  • the pilgrim-choked Vaikuntam queue complexes,
  • Kalyanakatta and
  • Matrusri Tarigonda Vengamamba free meals complex and
  • the TTD-run Aswini hospital[5].

Prominent among others who were present were included members of the committee –

  1. Kanimozhi,
  2. Raman Deka,
  3. Santosh Chowdary,
  4. Ravneet Singh,
  5. Neeraj Sekhar,
  6. TTD Executive Officer L.V. Subramanyam,
  7. JEO K.S. Srinivasa Raju,
  8. CVSO G.V.G. Ashok Kumar
  9. and others[6].

The Parliamentary Standing Committee on Home Affairs headed by BJP leader Venkaiah Naidu on Friday (November 12, 2012) expressed satisfaction over the security arrangements being made by the Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD) atop the sacred shrine of Lord Venakteswara. Talking to media persons, Mr. Naidu said that the committee has been visiting several important places in the country, including Tirumala, SHAR, and Kalpakkam to study the existing security mechanism at all the places. He said that the committee was also scheduled meet the top brass of the TTD officials, intelligence officials and the officials of the State Home Department on Saturday in Tirupati wherein issues relating to disaster management and security mechanism will be discussed. Besides this, the committee will also discuss issues relating to the marine security in the coastal belt apart from the proposal to bring Tirumala under the ‘no-fly’ zone category. The TTD authorities on their part explained to the team the various initiatives being adopted by the temple administration towards crowd management, queue system and the amenities being extended to pilgrims visiting Tirumala.

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- viwing queue-2

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Kanimozhi had special darsham tirth, prasad and saree: There have been many official reports, videos of the TTD and TV channels, News reports in English and Telugu as to why she visited the temple, what she did and other details:

  1. Kanimozhi visited the Tirumala temple on November 12, 2012 as a part of a Home Affairs Committee, to inspect the security arrangements being made by the Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD).
  2. She met the top brass of the TTD officials, intelligence officials and the officials of the State Home Department on Saturday in Tirupati wherein issues relating to disaster management and security mechanism.
  3. She verified the various initiatives being adopted by the temple administration towards crowd management, queue system and the amenities being extended to pilgrims visiting Tirumala.
  4. She had gone to Kalyanakatta where tonsure is made that involves hygiene and other issues. When two women member had symbolic tonsure, she was there and joined them.
  5. Went to Pushkarni to note the maintenance, refilling of water etc.
  6. She had special darshan of Sri Venkatswara, had tirth and prasadam. She also received a saree given by the TTD.
  7. Went to free-meals section, inspected the vessels for the cooking of food that is fed to thousands daily.
  8. Went to laddu counter, where, laddu and other prasadams were given free to her.
  9. She visited the temple to pray Sri Venkateswara to clear all problems, she was facing.

 

 

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- entering inside

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Kanimozhi crossing Vaikundam entry entrance….

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- way to Darshan

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Reaching “Way to Darshan”!!!!

What Kanimozhi spoke on 06-01-2018 at the WAC: From 12-11-2012 to 06-01-2018, what happened to he exposes her psyche.

What Kanimozhi talked Comments
 “If you give more money and buy a ticket you get special dharsanam [visit]. First of all, as an atheist, you should not have visited the temple.

As even when non-Hindus visit, they sign a form that I believe in Sri Venkateswara, you must have signed.

If not, Venkaiya Naidu should be held responsible for violating the norms.

As they went to inspect, evidently, they signed.

 If not, you stand for 10 hours, 20 hours or two days. That is god……… You should have waited, paid and went side, but, you enjoyed VVVVIP darshan! Shame, atheist, shame!!
That is Kanimozhi, the principle-less atheist, and thus,anti-Hindu!
He (accompanied MP) told me that all their wishes are being granted and they are being protected…I then asked him, there is a money collection box right in front of the god. Why is there a security personnel with a stun gun protecting it? The Telugu people explicitly answered that people like you might loot, that is why they stand with guns.

Moreover, as you had gone there to inspect the security aspects, you could not have made such idiotic statement!

People who run the temple are not confident that god can protect the money collection box. Why should I believe in god?”….. Shame on you, idiotic that we have MP like you and allowing you inside the temple.
Perhaps, you had gone inside to know the security arrangement to attack!
If that God does not protect, I say that God is not there….. Had you gone there to inspect the security aspects, or the existence of Go?

Your blabbering exposes your honesty, integrity and sincerity as a MP.

Thus, it is evident that by all means, the MP has lost her credibility and she should be stripped of MP post or she should resign immediately.

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- Annadhana

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Inspecting the “Free Meals – Prasad Hall”….

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- Laddu counter-

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Posing for photo before “Annadhana Hall, building”

Kanimozhi-why you went to Tirumala

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Coming out………………….”If you do not believe……why you enter the temple, had darshan, taken tirth and prasad, the saree……………..prayed to him to remove your problems?”. The AP people openly revealed that she came here to pray “Venkayya” to relieve her from 2G case!

Cong MLC, P Sudhakar Reddy condemns Kani on 12-01-2018

Complaints made against Kanimozhi: The local BJP leaders led by former TTD Board member G Bhanu Prakash Reddy submitted a written complaint to Urban ASP Srinivasulu against DMK MP Kanimozhi here on Thursday, (11-01-2018) for hurting the religious beliefs of Hindus[7]. She made adverse comments on the Lord Venkateswara at Tirumala at a Tiruchi meeting in Tamil Nadu[8]. Rayalaseema Porata Samithi (RPS) convener P Naveen Kumar Reddy has condemned the DMK MP comments against the presiding deity of Tirumala. He demanded that the state government’s Endowments department take legal action against Kanimozhi. The RPS activists staged a dharna near Alipiri. Ironically, in Tamilnadu, the so-called Hindutwavadis, Sangh-parivar, BJPwalas and other “Hindus” have been keeping quite for unknown reasons. The foreign delegates and other responsible delegates who attended the WAC should take care of the facts.

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11-01-2018

Nov.2012, Kanimozhi at Tirumala- Laddu counter-

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[1] Scroll.in, Tamil Nadu: Complaint filed against DMK MP Kanimozhi for allegedly hurting religious beliefs, Published : 12-01-2018· 07:34 pm Updated 12-01-2018 · 07:58 pm.

[2] https://scroll.in/latest/864727/tamil-nadu-complaint-against-dmk-mp-kanimozhi-for-allegedly-hurting-religious-beliefs

[3] TheNewsMinute, Why does god need gunman to protect hundiyal?’: Kanimozhi’s speech rankles Hindu group, Priyanka Thirumurthy, Thursday, January 11, 2018 – 14:05.

[4] https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/why-does-god-need-gunman-protect-hundiyal-kanimozhi-s-speech-rankles-hindu-group-74554

[5] The Hindu, Panel inspects security measures in Tirumala, TIRUMALA:, NOVEMBER 10, 2012 03:29 IST; UPDATED: NOVEMBER 10, 2012 03:29 IST. UPDATED: NOVEMBER 10, 2012 03:29 IST

[6] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/panel-inspects-security-measures-in-tirumala/article4082515.ece

[7] THE HANS INDIA, Case against DMK MP for hurting religious beliefs, Jan 12, 2018 , 01:32 AM IST.

[8] http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Andhra-Pradesh/2018-01-12/Case-against-DMK-MP-for-hurting-religious-beliefs/351590

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The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (2)

January 12, 2018

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (2)

WAC, Trichy - second day, paper presenters

The First Day paper reading session (05-01-2018): The WAC organizers kept the paper reading session inside and the public meetings open. The first day (05-01-2018) paper reading proceedings were held at Periyar Maniammai University campus, Vallam. On the theme, “Atheism – Hope for Humanity”, Three parallel sessions were held, where, 38 delegates participated and presented 28 papers. Of which 13 were taken for discussion.

WAC, Trichy - paper presenter-bald, looks north Indian

In first session, was conducted with Balwinder Barnala, Tarkkaasila Sangha, as chair-person and , Dr Samarasam, Vijyawada Atheist Centre, as moderator.

Kadesh Godherao, Maharastra Antastrata Nirmulam Samiti, read a paper on the topic, “Atheism is for the Progress of Humanity”.

Kumanarajan, editor of “Tamil Lemuria”, Mumbai presented a paper on “Threats of religious fundamentalism, Problems and Solutions.”

WAC, Trichy - paper presenter-gold-spec-nald-white

In the second session was chaired by Prof Ilakkuvan, Director, Periyar Centre, USA and P. Sabasiva Rao, Treasurer, Telengana-Hyderabad Manava Vikasha Vedika, moderated.

Prof Sam George, American College, spoke on, “Atheism – Way of Life.” M. Govindasamy, Malaysia Dravidar Sangam, Kulalampur spoke on, “Dravidian Movement in Malaysia”.

Dr R. Gauthaman, Periyar Medical Mission, spoke on “Medicine and Atheism.”

However, most of the papers were of generalized, rehashing the already known details and targeting Hindu religion for superstition and so on. Emphasis was given for in between Peiyar and Dravidian movement. The atheist arguments had been against ontological, teleological, cosmological points, but, they could not put forward any new points. The age-old theist-atheist arguments on these lines have been too well-known to be repeated here.

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- looks Tamilian, with coat

paper presenter

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- looks Tamilian, with white coat.

paper presenter

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- old man, spec, bald, white

Vijayan

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- old man, spec, bald

paper presenter

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- old man, spec, grey hair

paper presenter

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- Sikh

Balwinder Barnala

WAC, Trichy - paper presenter-spec, shirt-half-coat

paper presenter

DK opposing Rajini-

Atheism versus Spirituality – debate started: Speakers propagating atheist philosophy slammed religious beliefs, especially in Hinduism, at the World Atheist Conference here on Friday (05-01-2018). The concept of spiritual politics espoused by superstar Rajinikanth also came in for sharp criticism. It is not known as to why Rajni’s politics should be attacked and criticized in the “World Atheist Conference”. Evidently, as Trichy has been strong base of Rajini’s fans and his political ambitions would erode the Dravidian polity and as well as the prospects of DMK, the WAC has been exploited to attack Rajini politics.  Though Rajini’s concept was much debated over the past few days, some speakers found it nascent and lacking clarity. However, Dravida Kazhagam leader K. Veeramani aid that people propagating ideology of spiritual politics would be exposed sooner than later. Speaking on the sidelines of the conference, he said spiritual politics was nothing but a tool that might be used to deceive people. Politics was in no way related to spirituality. Spiritual politics stressed on the existence of spirit which was called ‘Atma’. The aim of the conference was to counter the very existence of spirit through philosophical arguments. Those trying to mislead people in the name of spirit would be exposed soon, he said. Ironically, even the atheist religions like Jainism and Buddhism believed “Atma”, rebirth, etc.

WAC, Trichy, Kanimozhi

During public session, Rajinikantha’s “Spiritual Politics” attacked: Lakshman Tamil from Periyar International, USA said that those thinking about starting a political party in the state could not ignore Periyar or Dravidian movement for their brand value. He said that one could become popular in the state by invoking the name of Periyar. Lakshman recalled how his father had told him to be honest also when he expressed his wish to become an atheist like Thanthai periyar. Periyar had set high standards to be an atheist, he said. aking a jibe at Rajini, Dravidian Tamil Federation general secretary Suba Veerapandian said that a person had recently visited Gopalapuram (the residence of DMK leader M Karunanidhi) to seek his blessings[1]. But little did he know that he could only get rationalist lessons from the leader and not his blessings[2]. Rationalists and atheists had been criticising the actor for giving his political move a religious colour. Though Rajinikanth had come out in the open with a statement clarifying his stand, not many seemed to be convinced.

WAC-3, Times of India

“Dravidian philosophy is the only alternative to Hindutva”: Untouchability is the worst tyranny any part of the world has ever seen. So is the caste system. And these are practiced in the name of God, said Dravida Kazhagam leader K Veeramani here on Friday (05-01-2018). Speaking at the World Atheism Conference 2018 in Trichy, Veeramani said India is land of atheism, not temples. Atheism is not just the denial of religion, but denial of all superstitions associated with it too. He said atheism dated back to 1500 CE in our country. Lakshman Tamil, Periyar International, USA, said caste system is the bane of India and society cannot progress as long as this Vedic system exists. Hinduism cannot claim that it is all-encompassing until it disowns the Vedas, he said. Buddhism and Jainism moved away from people and lost their relevance[3]. The Dravidar Kazhagam has created a populous atheist movement and it is the true Shramana movement of the modern time in terms of the core philosophy of atheism, he said. Terming Periyar’s atheism the most relevant, Lakshman Tamil said it is also a populous movement. Its multifaceted nature has also contributed to its popularity. “Dravidian philosophy is the only alternative to Hindutva. People have to choose between Hindutva, which is a Vedic tradition that is based on hate and segregates people in the name of caste, and Dravidian philosophy, which preaches self-respect,” said Lakshman Tamil[4].

WAC-3, Times of India- attacking Rajini

2G-Raja spoke on his atheism in Tihar and outside: Former Union telecom minister A Raja started off by thanking the CBI and the CAG for making him popular worldwide in the 2G spectrum case. “Being an atheist since teenage, his belief in atheism strengthened further during his imprisonment in the Tihar jail when he saw prisoners, who included rapists and murderers, making a beeline to offer oil to a figure of Saturn (Shani). Hinduism was used as a tool by upper caste people to keep a majority section poor by denying them education. This is a country where people are divided in terms caste. And this notion is created by religion”, he said. As many as 500 papers on atheism are going to be presented in the conference that is going to last for 3 days.

WAC-3, The Hindu, 06-01-2016

The Second Day paper reading session (06-01-2018): The seconday paper reading session was held in Einstein Auditorium, for which K. Veeramani chaired and  Narendra Naik, President, Indian Federation of Rationalist Associations acted as moderator. Devadoss welcomed the speakers and delegates. Elizabeth O’ Cassey delivered a special lecture.

Thaneswar Sahu, Philosopher professor and President of Odhisha Rationalist Association spoke on “Science, Scientific thinking – A Perspective.”

  1. Raja Kennedy, Rationalist Teachers Forum, spoke on, “Encouraging Scientific temper amomg the children”.
  2. Ramasamy, Professor and Rationalist from Madurai, spoke on “Atheist-Humanist Fighters Periyar and Gora”.

Suvinnila, Vice-President, Rationalist Association gave vote of thanks. Here, also, the speakers had repeated the points. They always tried to take “Science” as weapon against religious beliefs and dub them as “Superstition,” but, they could not tackle the issue of “Scientific superstition,” prevalent exploiting the public under forced propaganda, dubious advertisements and aggressive marketing.

WAc,Kanimozhi speaks

Rationalists attacked, women treated badly by all religions- Kanimozhi: The evening seession was held at Puthur Periyar auditorium, Trichy as a public meeting, in which Kanimozhi, Tirumavalavan, C. Vijayan (Director, Vijayawada Rationalist Centre) spoke. Atheist and rationalists all around the world are under threat, said Rajya Sabha MP K Kanimozhi on the second day of the World Atheist Conference, organised by Dravidar Kazhagam in Trichy on Saturday (06-01-2018)[5]. She hoped the believers or religious minded attending the conference see the “………….true light of Periyar. The people who have congregated here are already atheist. Even then why we have gathered? Why do we have to preach ourselves when we have already converted? But we have to come together to show that we are together and what humanity means to the world ……. said no religion treats women equal to a man in every aspect, be it Hinduism, Christianity or Islam……………All religion says a woman has to obey a man. Women have been denied their rights in every religion. That was the reason Periyar denied all religion…………..There are reformers and feminist around the world who are fighting for women’s rights. I respect all of them, but there is one true feminist in this world and that is Periyar……………Religion is nothing but fear. How much blood has been shed, how many wars have been fought in this world because of religion?…………..God has never killed anyone for their wrongdoing and has remained a spectator. He would never act or react………….There is a threat for all atheists and rationalists around the world. To show our strength, we all should stand united and fight against hatred. Atheism and humanism are the only truths,” she said[6]. The Scroll.in just reproduced that TOI reported[7]. Irony that their correspondents, colunists or reporters could not add more than that TOI published[8].

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10-01-2018

WAC-3, Veeramani, Raja, Elizabeth

[1] Times of India, Atheists slam Rajinikanth’s spiritual politics, K Sambath Kumar| TNN | Jan 6, 2018, 08:37 IST

[2] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/atheists-slam-rajinikanths-spiritual-politics/articleshow/62385950.cms

[3] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/madurai/dravidian-philosophy-is-the-only-alternative-to-hindutva/articleshow/62386831.cms

[4] Times of India, ‘Dravidian philosophy is the only alternative to Hindutva’, TNN | Updated: Jan 6, 2018, 00:18 IST.

[5] Times of India, Rationalists under threat all over the world: Kanimozhi, TNN | Jan 7, 2018, 08:25 IST.

[6] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/rationalists-under-threat-all-over-the-world-kanimozhi/articleshow/62397776.cms

[7] Scroll.in, Atheists and rationalists all over the world are under threat: DMK MP Kanimozhi, by  Scroll Staff, Published 07-01-2018, · 10:49 am

[8] https://scroll.in/latest/864115/atheists-and-rationalists-all-over-the-world-are-under-threat-dmk-mp-kanimozhi

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (1)

January 11, 2018

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (1)

WAC-3, Viduthalai front page

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted with tall claims: The World Atheist Conference 2018 (hereinafter mentioned as WAC) was conducted with tall claims made on January 5th to 7th 2016 at Trichy. It was commenced here with an emphasis on setting right in equalities in the society, quelling superstitions, and propagating rationalistic thinking. Titled ‘Atheism – Hope of Humanity’ and what not, the three-day program organised jointly by the Dravidar Kazhagam, Atheist Centre, Vijayawada and The Rationalists’ Forum witnessed delegates representing rationalist organisations in different parts of India and other countries, taking part in the inaugural and plenary sessions, and presenting their views on an array of topics that included atheism, religious fundamentalism, and medicine and atheism[1]. Presiding over, K. Veeramani, president, Dravidar Kazhagam, said atheism in India means much beyond non-belief in supernatural and religious rituals, and that the prime focus was on rectifying untouchability in the society perpetuated in the name of religion, and denial of education on the basis of birth[2].

WAC, Trichy - foreign delegates, Nadaswaram

Features of the Conference (as claimed by the organizers): As claimed by the organizers, Atheist – Humanists around the world participate in the conference, besides the leaders of various atheist, rationalist and humanist organizations from all the States of the country, Paper presentations by atheist scholars and activists followed by deep deliberations on the different perspectives of atheist philosophy, form the major part of the conference proceedings, Sharing of religion-free living culture in various countries / societies and churning up the substance on living free from the fear of god, enabling humanity to progress and peace, Revealing the success, in establishing the egalitarian society free from the belief of non existing ‘god’ through the services of organizations and movements by atheist philosophers and Documenting the pioneering role rendered by atheist movements in the East during the early historical period.

Garry McLelland-WAC, Trichy

The Rationalists’ Forum: The Rationalists’ Forum claims that it, “is a Humanist Movement founded by Periyar in 1971 and presently patronised by Dr. K. Veeramani, President, Dravidar Kazhagam. It is a unique movement, because of the composition of membership and the activities. People who are committed to Periyar ideology and employed in various organisations – government, public private co-operative have shouldered the responsibility of preaching and practicing rationalistic ideals”. The activities include organising meetings, seminars, science exhibition, superstition exposure show to develop scientific temper and humanism among the public. Many State and Central Ministers, Vice Chancellors of Universities, educationalists, officials who are at helm of affairs to-day were the earlier functionaries of The Rationalists’ Forum.

Elizebeth WAC trichy

The Organizers of the Atheist Conference[3]: The organizers have been:

  1. Dravidar Kazhagam (Tamil Nadu), Atheist Centre (Vijayawada) and
  2. The Rationalists’ Forum (Tamil Nadu) jointly organise World Atheist Conference 2018.

WAC is the ideological confluence of atheist, rationalist and humanist fraternity from the countries – England, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, United States etc. and from all the States of India. WAC proceedings cover seminar and sittings with lecture delivery and paper presentation on the various dimensions of atheism , rationalism and humanism. Film show, video presentations, science exhibition, book fair are planned. A massive public procession with demonstrations exposing superstition is scheduled. A Souvenir containing essays, real stories, personal experiences of eminent persons on atheism and allied ideologies gets released on the occasion. Many leaders and persons of eminence from State and Central Governments, educationalists intellectuals participate in the proceedings.

WAC, Trichy - stage-1

Were foreign delegates conscious of the Dravidian atheism?: The foreign delegates attended the conference, but, what they spoke was not revealed by the organizers, the media and the participants:

  1. Gary McLelland[4], Chief Executive, International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU), London[5], and
  2. Avinash Patil, Executive President, Maharashtra Andhrashraddha Nirmoolan Samithi, Pune, Maharashtra, were the other guest speakers.
  3. Elizabeth O’ Cassey[6], Director of Advocasy – IHEU, Brussels, Belgium, inaugurated an exhibition of books at the Atheist Book Centre. Rustam Singh, Atheist Alliance International, USA;
  4. Suba Veerapandian, General Secretary, Dravidian Tamil Federation; and
  5. Rajaratnam, Pro-Chancellor, Periyar Institute of Science and Technology (Deemed to be University), Vallam, Thanjavur also spoke.

Five books were released on the occasion: ‘Bhagavad Gita – Myth or Mirage,’ and ‘March of Atheism’ authored by Veeramani, Compilation of ‘Old Testament of Indian Atheism’ by Surendra Anjat, ‘Essays on Matters which Matter’ (A Rationalist’s Perception) by S. Rajaratnam, and Compilation of ‘Revolt’ published by Periyar in 1928 and 1929. It is evident that Compilation of ‘Old Testament of Indian Atheism’ by Surendra Anjat, and conspicuously, there was no book released about the position of atheism in Islam or existence of “Islamic atheists”. As happened in 2011, this year also, most of the foreign delegates came and attended did not know about DK, EVR, Dravidian atheism etc., as they talk about Humanism, human rights, etc.

WAC-3, women delegates from north

Inaugural session: During the inagural session, A. Raja, Sp. Suba Veerapandian, Gary McLelland, Elezabet O’Cassey, Avinash Patil and others spoke and thereafter, papers were presented. Ironically, A. Raja, former Union Minister of Telecommunication (who was in jail for 2G scam, came out on bail and acquitted by the Court recently), said he has been deriving inner strength from atheism. Ironically, the DK-ideologists talked as usual rhetoric with verbose without any new points. As usual, they made “stage-type” talk in Tamil and using few words and sentences in English to show off that it was an international conference. Ironically, the delegates came from Pujab, Maharastra, Andhrapradesh and Kartataka were talking in their mother tongue and Hindi when they conversed with each other. The same thing happened during the All India Atheist Conference held  at Periyar Tidal in May 2010, where, one invitee spoke in Hindi and it was translated by the DK ideologist. Now also, K. Veeramani during his speech accepted that the language bearer exists among the delegates coming from those states. Incidentally, their anti-Hindi stand gets exposed here, as with Tamil alone or any particular regional language alone, they cannot do anything.

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10-01-2018

WAC-3, Balwindern Barnala, before EVR statue

[1] The Hindu, Atheit conference gets under way, The Special Correspondent, TIRUCHI, JANUARY 06, 2018 00:00 IST; UPDATED: JANUARY 06, 2018 03:49 IST.

[2] http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/world-atheist-conference-gets-under-way/article22380406.ece

[3] http://www.worldatheistconference.com/

[4] Gary joined IHEU in February 2017. Before this he worked for the Humanist Society Scotland since 2013 as Head of Communications and Public Affairs. He has also previously served as a director of the European Humanist Federation based in Brussels, as well as a board member of the Scottish Joint Committee on Religious and Moral Education. Before working in Humanist campaigning, Gary worked for a global citizenship project at the Mercy Corps European headquarters in Edinburgh, and also in policy and service delivery in education and social work. He has a BSc (hons) in psychology, a diploma in childhood and youth studies and master’s in human rights law, in which he researched the approach of the European Court of Human Rights and the United Nations’ approach to so-called ‘blasphemy laws’.

http://iheu.org/about/staff-and-representatives/

[5] International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU), 39 Moreland Street
London EC1V 8BB, United Kingdom, Office telephone: +44 20 7490 8468; From within the UK: 020 7490 8468

[6] Elizabeth started as director of advocacy in January 2016, after two years heading the IHEU’s delegation to the UN in Geneva. She focuses her work on freedom of religion or belief, freedom of expression, LGBT rights and the rights of women, particularly in relation to religious, traditional and cultural practices. Elizabeth manages IHEU advocacy work at a number of institutions, including at the UN in Geneva, New York and Paris, the Council of Europe, the OSCE and Africa Commission on Human and Peoples Rights. She is also a Vice Chair of the UN NGO Committee on Freedom of Religion or Belief (in Geneva), an International Patron for the Pink Triangle Trust and an International Advisor at the Raif Badawi Foundation. Elizabeth has a PhD in International Political Theory from the London School of Economics, where she was a Michael Leifer Scholar. She has spent time as a Global Justice fellow at Yale University, worked in various policy and advocacy positions in the UK and EU, and has also worked as a consultant on sexual and reproductive health and rights. She is based in Brussels.

http://iheu.org/about/staff-and-representatives/

Why newly built Hyderabad church attacked – why it was opposed by the local villagers yet built without permission from the Government? (1)

May 28, 2017

Why newly built Hyderabad church attacked – why it was opposed by the local villagers yet built without permission from the Government? (1)

UCAN India report

The Church inagurated on 13-05-2017 was attacked on 21-05-2017 by the local villagers[1]: Two days ago on Sunday [21-05-2017], vandals trashed “Our Lady of Fatima Catholic church” at Godamakunta in Kundapalli, a village in Keesara mandal, Hyderabad (Telangana), thus, the newspapers and internet versions started circulated the news as if the Christians are attacked again and again in India. This “is a great shock” for the local Catholic community. “We are deeply hurt” and “discouraged. We shall rally for peace through prayers,” said Mgr Bernard Swarna, vicar general of the Archdiocese of Hyderabad as he reacted to the act of vandalism[2]. “Our religious sentiments have been deeply offended,” the clergyman noted. “The attackers entered the church and destroyed everything. For us Catholics, it is very painful to see the statue of Our Lady thrown to the ground, the crucified Christ broken, and the altar turned over.” So, the other Christian denominations have chosen to keep quite!

Swarna Bernard Vicar General of St. Joseph College-Hybiz.tv

The Vicar says, “….the vandalising of the church is the work of a “few extremists”, unlike “the majority of Hindus with whom we have good relations[3]: At the same time though, “We received support from Muslims and Hindus who condemned the violence against the church. They expressed their solidarity by participating in an act of prayer.” Mgr Swarna added that the Archdiocese is organising a meeting for next Sunday with the participation of religious leaders and ordinary believers to reiterate that, despite the intolerance of Hindu extremists, “praying is important”. “At first we thought to limit to Catholics, but after receiving so many messages of support, we decided to open it to everyone,” he explained. According to the vicar[4], the vandalising of the church is the work of a “few extremists”, unlike “the majority of Hindus with whom we have good relations”.  So, the Vicar or the Bishop or the media, why did not point out –

  1. Who are the “few extremists”?
  2. How they are different from “the majority of Hindus with whom we have good relations”, as claimed by him?
  3. Does it mean the “few extremists” are different from “the majority of Hindus with whom we have good relations”, as claimed by him?
  4. What exactly, he wanted to convey?
  5. If they are not “Hindus”, who are they?
  6. Are they Christians, Mohammedans??

They have conveniently suppressed the facts without answering.

Herald Malaysian - on church attack

Still, “There is a lot of confusion,” the prelate said, “and people demand respect. We want to rally for peace.”: He [the Vicar] also thanked the local police for their proven support, which “guaranteed us protection”.  Likewise, the authorities have offered “maximum cooperation”, as shown by the arrest yesterday of 22 people involved in the vandalising of the place of worship.” Still, “There is a lot of confusion,” the prelate said, “and people demand respect. We want to rally for peace.” Today the Archdiocese issued a press release in which it describes the attack against the church, which was inaugurated on 13 May 2017 by Archbishop Thumma Bala for the centenary of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima.  So, the Vicar again says something mysteriously –

  1. Still, “There is a lot of confusion,” the prelate said, ….why and that is the confusion?
  2. He continued to say, “…..and people demand respect. We want to rally for peace.”
  3. Why the attackers requires respect?
  4. Who are they to be respected?
  5. Why he wants peace with them?
  6. Does he imply that they are Christians?

Hyderabad church attacked- Thumma Bala

This is “a brutal act of violating our fundamental right of freedom to live, practice and worship our faith.”: The communiqué notes that a mob of more than a hundred people broke into the church, threatened the watchman and desecrated the place. “They also attacked Mr. Anantha Reddy, the supervisor of the construction work going on there, who was capturing this act of vandalism on his cellphone” [sic].  This is “a brutal act of violating our fundamental right of freedom to live, practice and worship our faith.” According to the Archdiocese, damages total around 250,000 rupees (US$ 3,850). “Such attacks can happen anywhere,” said Mgr Matthew Cheriankunnel in his homily. “We are not so far from [what is said] in “the Acts of the Apostles. In India, persecution is nigh, and we must expect it to come from all sides at any time. We have to live with this reality.” Fr Rayarala Vijay Kumar, the regional superior of the Pontifical Institute for Foreign Missions (PIME) in India[5], believes that violence “does not come from the people, from ordinary people, but has political-religious motives. Unlike other confessions, Hinduism has traditionally always been a tolerant religion,” but “Today, it is becoming more and more extremist.”–Asia News.

  1. This is “a brutal act of violating our fundamental right of freedom to –
    1. live,
    2. practice and
    3. worship our faith.”

Fantastic, yet you do not care for the Acts and Rules prevalent there!

  1. “Such attacks can happen anywhere,” said Mgr Matthew Cheriankunnel in his homily. “We are not so far from [what is said] in “the Acts of the Apostles. – so what he wanted to say?
  2. In India, persecution is nigh, and we must expect it to come from all sides at any time. We have to live with this reality.” Fr Rayarala Vijay Kumar. So with this internal issue, he wants to politicize!
  3. Rayarala Vijay Kumar believes that violence “does not come from the people, from ordinary people, but has political-religious motives. – So from ordinary people violence comes and he can attribute to “extremism”!
  4. Unlike other confessions, Hinduism has traditionally always been a tolerant religion,” but “Today, it is becoming more and more extremist.” – Hinduis is becoming more and more extremist!
  5. Thus, for every thing, they want to blame “Hinduim”!

 Fr Rayarala Vijay Kumar, the regional superior of the Pontifical Institute for Foreign Missions (PIME) in India

Church constructed without permission – construction started under the pretext of constructing a “function hall”[6]: According to the reports, a church located at Gudmakund village in Kesara Mandal of Medchal districts was attacked and the idols were desecrated. The persons arrested include Sarpanch, Dy. Sarpanch and two Govt. school teachers. ACP of Kushaiguda district, Syed Rafiq told that as soon as police got information, the accused have been arrested. It is mentioned that one Mr. George Reddy was constructing a church on his three acre land for which he had not taken permission from any authority[7]. He started this construction under a pretext of constructing a function hall. After getting this news, villagers including Sarpanch, Dy. Sarpanch and others assembled on Saturday. They reached George Reddy’s farm house and dismantled the under construction building. The arrested persons are Anil Kumar, Sarpanch, M. Rajalinga, Dy. Sarpanch, D. Venkat Reddy, Govt. teacher, C. Yadagiri, Govt. teacher and others. The Hindu reported it in its own way[8], “The irate villagers claimed that the owner of the land had illegally built the church. We have booked them for rioting,” Inspector M. Surender said, adding that they were yet to name people in the case. The inspector also said George Reddy, the owner of the land who had allocated about 1,000 square yards for the church, had applied for permission for constructing a church with the district administration but had not received approval yet.”!  So George Reddy started building consciously without permission without caring for the law of this land.

© Vedaprakash

28-05-2017

Amman, Mary, carrying Krishna-Hinduized

[1] Asian News, Catholics are discouraged their church is vandalised, but will rally for peace, says Vicar of Hyderabad, May 24. 2017.

[2] http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Catholics-are-discouraged-their-church-is-vandalised,-but-will-rally-for-peace,-says-vicar-of-Hyderabad-40818.html

[3] Herald Malaysia online, Catholics are discouraged their church is vandalised, but will rally for peace, says Vicar of Hyderabad, May 24. 2017.

[4] http://www.heraldmalaysia.com/news/catholics-are-discouraged-their-church-is-vandalised-but-will-rally-for-peace-says-vicar-of-hyderabad/36367/1

[5] https://www.pimeusa.org/contact; https://www.pimeusa.org/

[6] The Siasat Daily, DESECRATION IN MEDCHAL CHURCH, INCLUDING SARPANCH 22 ARRESTED, May 23, 2017.

[7] http://www.siasat.com/news/desecration-medchal-church-including-sarpanch-22-arrested-1188079/

[8] The Hindu, Newly built church vandalized, SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT, HYDERABAD, MAY 22, 2017 01:36 IST; UPDATED: MAY 22, 2017 07:27 IST.

International Conferences on Mahabharat held at Tirupati and Vedic Workshop at Kozikode – contrasted in the Indian context – 2014

January 13, 2014

International Conferences on Mahabharat held at Tirupati and Vedic Workshop at Kozikode – contrasted in the Indian context – 2014

The sixth international Vedic workshop

The sixth international Vedic workshop

International Conferences on Mahabharat held at Tirupati and Vedic Workshop at Kozikode: The sixth international Vedic workshop [hereinafter mentioned as SIVW for brevity] was held in Kozhiokode from January 7 to 10 2014 and the international conference on Mahabharata [mentioned as ICMB] in Tirupati from 7th to 11th 2014. As the former had attracted Sanskrit and Veda researchers and writers from universities across the world[1] with 111 delegates, the latter attracted more than 600 registered delegates with paper presentation. Besides theoretical deliberations, Veda chanting had been a special feature of the workshop, event coordinator Vinod Bhattathiripad and programme core committee members M.G.S. Narayanan, former chairman Indian Council of Historical Research (ICHR), and P. Bhaskaran Nayar of Lincoln University, U.K., said at a press conference in Kozhikode on Saturday (04-01-2014). The workshop began with chanting of Rigveda by Parvathy, who the organisers said, was the only female Rigveda chanter in Kerala. However, there have been many Hindu women chanting Vedic mantras living in India even today. But, an impression has been created that women should not read or are not allowed to read Vedas. The ICMB was inaugurated with the presence and blessings of the following:

  1. Sri Jayendra Saraswathi, pontiff of Sri Kanchi Kamakoti Peetam,
  2. S.A.R.P.V. Chaturvedi, founder of Sri Ramanuja Mission Trust and
  3. Kandukuri Sivananda Murty, Saiva mutt.

The first three postings of the conference have been posted under captions as follows and their internet links are given in the footnotes:

  1. The proceedings of the international conference on Mahabharatam held at Tirupati from 7th to 11th January 2014[2].
  2. The International conference on Mahabharatam held at Tirupati from 7th to 11th January 2014 – the proceedings (2)[3].
  3. The Mahabharatam conference concluded at Tirupati on 11th January 2014 that started on 7th – the proceedings (3)[4].
The sixth international Vedic workshop -Gateway Hotel

The sixth international Vedic workshop -Gateway Hotel

The Gateway Hotel and Vishnu Nivasam: While the delegates of SIVW stayed at the five star hotel, the delegates of ICMB were accommodated at the Vishnu Nilayam comfortably. The registration / delegate fees was Rs. 6,000/- for SIVW (four days)[5] and Rs. 1,500/- for ICMB (five days). SIVW was the first international Vedic workshop to be hosted by India, as claimed by the organizers, but Indians wonder as to why such claim should have been made, as if India hosts now. The other Vedic workshops were held at[6]

  1. Harvard University, USA (in 1989, organized by Prof. Michael Witzel),
  2. Kyoto University, Japan (in 1999, organized by Prof. Y. Ikari),
  3. Leiden University, The Netherlands (in 2002, organized by Prof. J. Houben and Prof. A. Griffith),
  4. University of Texas, Austin, USA (in 2007, organized by Prof. P. Olivelle and Prof. J. Brereton), and
  5. Centre for Eurasiatic and Afroasiatic Studies (CEAS), Bucharest, Romania (in 2011, organized by Prof. J. Rotaru).

The ICMB was organized by the Oriental Research Institute (ORI) of Sri Venkateswara University and Tirupati Tirumala Devasthanams (TTD). The Vedic workshop in Kozhikode reportedly focused on Vedic texts and rituals, scholarly interpretations of Vedic texts, Vedic traditions of Kerala, and the recent resurgence of interest in the Vedas in the West. While 14 scholars from universities and research institutes in the U.S. and 12 from Japan had confirmed participation, five Vedic experts were expected from France and four each from Germany and the United Kingdom[7], thus the press went on reporting. On the other hand, ICMB provided space to students, research scholars, Vedic experts, researchers and Indologists.

Wooden utensils used in Vedic rituals

Wooden utensils used in Vedic rituals

The details given by the SIVW website: The workshop committee members comprised the following:

  1. Prof. M. Witzel (University of Harvard, USA)
  2. Prof. Shrikant Bahulkar, Pune, India
  3. Prof. Yasuke Ikari, Kyoto University, Japan
  4. Prof. Julita Rotaru, Centre for Eurasiatic and Afroasiatic Studies (CEAS), Bucharest, Romania

The core committee members were as follows:

  1. Dr. P. Bhaskaran Nayar, Lincoln University, UK
  2. Prof. M. G. S. Narayanan, Former Chairman, Indian Council of Historical Research
  3. Prof. C. M. Neelakantan, Former Professor (Veda), Sree Sankaracharya  University of Sanskrit, Kerala, India
  4. Prof. C. Rajendran, Professor (Sanskrit), University of Calicut, Kerala, India
  5. Dr. P. Vinod Bhattathiripad, Chief Co-ordinator, www.namboothiri.com

Advisors to the core committee were –

  1. Prof. Cezary Galewicz, Professor, University of Krakow, Poland
  2. Prof. T. P. Mahadevan, Professor, Howard University, USA

It appears that these committees are just like any other conference to control the proceedings, as I have been noting for more than 40 years after attending many national and international conferences. The program details of SIVW are available here[8].

Kozhiokode and Tirupati: To quote Elst, “Kozhikode (Calicut), Kerala, India. This is the town where Vasco da Gama first landed in 1498, thus starting the colonial entreprise in Asia”, whereas Tirupati has been a place of pilgrimage centre where all categories of Indians used to come for darshan of Sri Venkateswara. Of course, the Portuguese colonialists tried to loot this temple also as per the recordings of othe non-Indian sources. The University of Calicut, Jawaharlal Nehru University, Delhi, and IIT Kanpur sponsored their scholars to the conference. Delegates from the University of Michigan also attended. The    Chief coordinator of the conference Dr Vinod Bhattathiripad told Deccan Chonicle that 15 delegates from various universities in the country would present papers. Only 80 papers were accepted by the committee[9], implying that papers were also rejected, but the grounds not known. The major universities sent the delegates at their own expenses reducing the financial burden of the organizers, he said. But, in a poor country like India, when the organizers had already decided to host “Vedic workshop” in five star hotels, how the question of “financial burden” plays a role is intriguing. The organizers decided to conduct the workshop in the country of Vedas where the spirit is still alive to provide an ‘on ground’ experience of Vedic practice and direct interaction with practicing scholars, he added.  In Tirupati, more than 600 papers were presented accommodating students, research scholars, Vedic experts, researchers and Indologists.

Indians do not know Michael Witzel but Veda Vyasa: The views of Koenald Elst, one of the delegates can be read here[10]. His comments are interesting[11] for Indians in contrast to what other non-Indians who write about Indian issues. His pointed out that “……….Michael Witzel, Wales professor of Sanskrit at Harvard. For quite some time now I have taken my distance from the counterproductive Hindu habit of treating him as a hate figure”. Good, but 99% of the Hindus do not know about Koenald / Koenraad Elst or Michael Wizel and therefore, it is surprising to know about “Hindu habit of treating him as hate figure”. As I was attending the International conference on Mahabharatam at Tirupati, I could not attend, but I was mentioning about him with many Sanskrit Pundits, scholars and professors from the Universities of Baroda, Pune, Calcutta, Tiruvanathapuram, Andhra, Madras, Pondicherry etc. Of 100, only few – two   from Chennai, one from AP and another from Pondicherry know him. Ironically none of the Sanskrit Pundits, scholars and professors responded that they do not know him even after showing his photograph!

OIT, AIT and Indians: As OIT and AIT were dominating the SIVW, they were also haunting and daunting sizeable modern students and researchers of ICMB. However, ICMB  papers have been affected ideologically with political influence and compulsion, though in person they do not agree with such Aryan-Dravidian dichotomy. As now the knowledge is open and accessible to all through modern gadgetry, and they could come to their own conclusions, no lecturing, tutoring or propaganda affects them. In that way, it appears the scholars, experts and Pundits of SIVW have been still under the clutches of OIT and AIT controlling their thought processes.

(To be concluded


[1] The special correspondent, Scholars to attend Vedic workshop, The Hindu dated January 5, 2014, Kozhikode edition