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Christian music, Christian Tamil music,  Christian keerthanais and Kutchery: All with “Thomas myth”,  the way, Nivedita Louis spreads it!

July 6, 2020

Christian music, Christian Tamil music,  Christian keerthanais and Kutchery: All with “Thomas myth”,  the way, Nivedita Louis spreads it!

The Hindu how spreads thomas myth, Abhirami Rao, July 2019

A newcomer in the list of “Thomas myth” spreading propagandists[1]: The Christians never forget to take any chance to insert and spread the myth of Thomas and now, one Nivedita Louis has come, hitherto unknown name in the context. It appears that she takes every opportunity effectively to do so, wherever, she goes on whatever subject, she deals with[2]. She supplies photos, materials and other things to aid abet to spread such myth without any shame[3]. In the same church, Rayappa Arulappa tried to manufacture evidences with Acharya Paul. Then, so many things happened…the project of a movie on “doubting thomas” and so on. But, she never touches upon these, but, follows the methodology of Subhashini Tremmel[4]. Our course, S. Muthaiah (1930-2019) used to accommodate such myth in his musings here (in The Hindu) and there (Madras musings). Even after him, the same trend continues[5]. One Abhirami Rao who joined the walk of Nivedita Louis came out with a stuff[6] that was duly published in “The Hindu”.  Generally, Indians or Hindus do not bother about all these things. But, when a pattern is found and she gets agitated immediately calling names with the outbursts of “Aryan,” “Dravidian,” “Vanderi” and so on, then, there is a reason to believe that she has agenda and continues now, just like her predecessors. The following have been the news stuff that involves her with the “Thomas myth.”

Nivedita Louis on Thomas myth wherever possible

The connection between Tamil music and Christianity: Right from the period of Bartholomaus Ziegenbalg, who tried to translate the German and Latin hymns into Tamil, people started to sing songs in the Tamil meter[7]. But Christian natives found it difficult to sing in the Western genre. To adjust themselves to the new situation, missionaries came up with songs that have attributes of both Western and Tamil music[8]. Along with singer Jasmine Wilson, writer-historian Nivedita Louis would be a holding a lec-dem that traces the connection between Tamil music and Christianity on August 23 2019 at Press Institute of India, Taramani. “The Tamil Christian songs date back to 300 years. At the ending of every Knanaya marriage, they used to sing Syriac chants. Missionary Constantine Joseph Beschi, also known as Viramamunivar, thought there was a cultural divide in music between the Tamil Christians and missionaries who propagated Christianity. So to have an alliance between the two musical styles, he started translating texts like Tirukkural,” says Nivedita.

Nivitia Luois, on Christian singers
Christian keerthanais, Christian Carnatic songs and Kutchery: People like Vedanayagam Sastriar, N Samuel and Henry Alfred Krishnapillai started writing Tamil Christian classics. “There wasn’t any difference between Carnatic and Tamil music — the music was the same, only the words differed. Vedanayagam Sastriar wrote Bethlehem Kuravanji (with the Lord of Bethlehem as the protagonist) that was inspired by Kutrala Kuravanji,” she explains. Missionaries transformed epic Tamil songs and brought it to the hold of Christianity. That’s how the tradition of keerthanais began. Similar to Carnatic keerthanais, they started penning Christian keerthanais as well. “Vedanayagam Sastriar and Thyagaraja are contemporaries. We don’t find much difference in their writings and compositions. The only difference is the usage of words. Those days, people used to write songs in notebooks and pass it on from one generation to next. When music went from one era to another, there was a huge transformation,” Nivedita adds. The best thing about Christian music is that it is democratic and not restricted to a particular community or group of people.

Waliking through santhome church, Nivedita Louis

The interest of Nividita Louis in the Santhome: Partnering with Vincent D Souza, the editor of a local newspaper, Nivedita says they chose to concentrate on Santhome because, “It has a high concentration of Christians, is one of the oldest parts of the city and has a lot of connections to the Portuguese. The lives of these people are very interesting,” she begins[9]. The walk will commence from the museum inside the Santhome Cathedral (assembly point), from where the hosts will go on to explain about the Portuguese residents’ day-to-day living and prayer rituals. “History shows that many of their customs are akin to that of the locals. For example, we can find pillars similar to the Dwajasthambam built in Hindu temples in some of the churches. People also used to take the idol of Virgin Mary out in a procession like they do with Hindu deities,” she explains[10].

Nivedhita Louis Adichanallur
Historian describes all the buildings near Santhome Church: At the crib inside the Santhome Cathedral, Nivedita will speak about how this Nativity scene was started in 1223 by Francis of Assisi. She says, “He is also called patron saint of animals — that’s why we find a lot of animals in the crib such as donkeys, goats and oxen.” The participants will then proceed to St Bede’s School after which, “We’ll go to the Bishop’s House, which was once a bungalow built by De Monte in 1808. In fact, the gate has a creepy story, which I’ll narrate during the walk,” shares the historian. St. Rita’s Church, CSI St. Thomas English Church, which is 175 years old and CSI St. Thomas Tamil Church will follow. The last stop is Kalpana House, which belonged to a yesteryear actress. The old bungalow currently houses a jewellery store but hidden within its walls is a small shrine built by the actress’ son, containing a 100-year-old statue of Infant Jesus. Another surprise element for the participants will be in store after a visit to this house, which will be revealed during the walk. To participate in the hour-long Christmas Eve Walk that will start at 7.30 pm, contact 9840170982.

Reviving thomas myth by the priests -1
Firangi Kunda or Parangi Malai: Hindus and Muslims reciting Ghazals, inside a church — nothing novel today, perhaps but when it first happened, as an act of spontaneity by people who were overwhelmed by the sheer beauty of the European paintings depicting Biblical scenes, it went on to be etched as a special moment in the city’s multi-cultural history. It happened at the church (called Church of Our Lady of Expectation) on St. Thomas Mount, then known as Firangi Kunda or Parangi Malai when Nawab Sadathullah Khan ruled the Carnatic. The year was 1719, and the Nawab’s men — led by his Dewan, Dakhini Ram along with a few Muslim generals and others — were returning to Arcot after some tough negotiations with the English at Fort St. George.

Reviving thomas myth by the priests -2
The Nawab’s Church visit: On the way, the Nawab’s party was invited by Armenian traders to visit their palatial bungalows at the foot of St. Thomas Mount[11]. After enjoying Armenian hospitality and some rest, Dakhini Ram and his men climbed up the hill to see the elegant church, built at the spot where St. Thomas, the apostle, was believed to have been killed in 72 CE[12]. The Portuguese had built a church there in the 16th century, which was renovated and beautified by the rich Armenian traders of Madras just a few years before the Nawab’s party would land up there, out of curiosity. And what they saw took their breath away. “Its lofty buildings and its elegant and bewitching aisles, where, at every corner, pictures of Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ adorn the walls, dazed the onlooker,” writes Jaswanth Rai, the chronicler of Nawab Sadathullah Khan.

Nivedita Louis on Thomas myth
Arcot Nawab, Sufi, Sheikh and Brahmin: It was probably the first time that the Indians were coming face-to-face with European Renaissance-style paintings. The use of perspective on a two-dimensional surface to make it appear three-dimensional was one of the characteristic features of Renaissance paintings. It made the painted eye appear as though it was following the viewer. Once inside the church, they found the interior of the church roof completely painted with Biblical scenes and of Virgin Mary with Child Jesus. “What wonderful paintings, particularly the ones on the roof are beyond all praise. From whatever corner one looks at, his eyes are dazzled at the art,” records Jaswant Rai, who accompanied the Dewan. Jaswant Rai’s friend Muhammad Arif composed a verse on the spot:

‘His eyes (artist’s) see with the eye of God:

The whole art of the West is manifested in the twinkle of the eye.’

Thoroughly intoxicated with the beautiful paintings and the hospitality of the padre, the Nawab’s men decided to hold a Mushaira (a poetic symposium) right there. So poets such as Khizl Bash Khan, Fazlullah Khan, Aga Muhammad Muqim, chronicler Jaswant Rai and several others got together. Basanth Rai, brother of Jaswanth Rai, sang:

‘The eye has not eyed like unto the beloved from the west; The moon has not witnessed another such moon in the whole of that country…’

Muhammad Arif continued thus:‘

The European beloved has struck such a chord in my heart

That the page of my heart has been metamorphosed

Into a picture of Europe…’

Interestingly, the paintings also brought in philosophical musings in people like Khizl Bash Khan, who began his recital with, “I am not able to differentiate between a Sheikh and a Brahmin…” Perhaps the English translation does not do justice to the original Persian verse with its rhyme and meter, but it does offer a glimpse into a society that appreciated art beyond the narrow confines of religion. Today, sadly it is only these verses that remain of the beautiful paintings that adorned the ceilings of the church. But these verses and the St. Thomas Mount chronicle bear testament to a time when religion did not blur man’s appreciation for the lofty things of life –this story has been published in “the Hindu.” Here, it has to be mentioned that “the Hindu” has been in the habitual accommodator of “Thomas myth” and it never gives ant space to expose it. That has been the journalistic ethics, commitment to history and what not. And finally, I February 2020, Nivedita Louis came out as follows:

Nivedita Louis and her friend on Thomas myth -facebook postings

Nivedita Louis comes out: “There is a museum in Santhome Church. There have been two important Chola inscriptions. Thee are other inscriptions of the Portuguese. The Church never suppressed them. The ceramic ware, bones, coins recovered during the excavations conducted in 1893 have been preserved here. A few years back, when the students of Madras University conducted excavations, terra sigillata, arattain type broken ware were recovered. It is not known whether they have been dated or not. Tis place has been alive since the Sangam period. The public can come and visit the museum, wen t is opened.  Just because, flag-staff is there for the last few years, it s a Hindu temple, some items are inside and therefore they are Hindu., I want to tell the ……….(Chillarai) Hindu organizations, who claim that they are Hindu. The potter of the Sanga period and the Cholas are our Tamil people. They are not like you who invaded and settled down here (vanderi) and not ……..so cheap fanatics. Tamil Christians are not imported from London. They are the sons of this soil. Aboriginal people. The invader Aryans, ho are you to touch upon our Tamil culture? Very strong protestations,” she posted in the Facebook in this way. This was in response to Arjun Sampath visit to the Church in February 2020.

Thomas myth spreading, Parangi church, Nivedita Louis - The Hindu

The Christians should stop spreading “the myth of thomas”: Whether S. Muthaiah or anybody, as they claimed / claim historian and all, they must be knowing the facts of “doubting Thomas,” as they very often quote from the archival sources, old books and documents. As for as the Christians are concerned, as they claim historicity for their religion, god, scriptures etc., they cannot manufacture legends, forge stories and myths. Historians cannot spread myth, particularly, the Thomas myth, as the Mylapore Archbishop himself was involved with such forgeries and the case had gone to the Madras High Court. The litigants came out on “out of court” settlement  to bury the fraudulent activities carried on. However, as it happened 25-30 years, the details have been known to many and they are available. Under such circumstances, they should stop to do such false propaganda.

© Vedaprakash

05-07-2020

[1] This I should have posted in February 2020 itself, however, as I was preoccupied and the material related to this were also misplaced, the Carona leisure time has given time to complete and post.

[2] The News Minute, The bells toll again: Chennai revives its Armenian link with annual church service, FEATURES COMMUNITY WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 07, 2018 – 13:22

Anjana Shekar Follow @anjanashekar

[3] https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/bells-toll-again-chennai-revives-its-armenian-link-annual-church-service-76052

[4]  Subhashini Tremmel has come out with a video explain the museum and of course, the myth. I wrote to her, but, she replied only once and then kept quiet. Nowadays, she is involved with many other controversies and moving with Indian politicians.

[5] The Hindu, Re-discover Santhome’s architectural treasures, Abhirami Rao, JULY 30, 2019 13:28 IST; UPDATED: JULY 30, 2019 16:41 IS.

[6] https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/re-discover-santhomes-architectural-treasures/article28756981.ece

[7] DTNext, Lecture to trace links between Christianity and Tamil music, Published: Aug 21, 2019, 07:30 AM by Merin James.

[8] https://www.dtnext.in/News/City/2019/08/21081438/1172650/Lecture-to-trace-links-between-Christianity-and-Tamil-.vpf

[9] DTNext, A walk to explore the less seen side of Santhome on Christmas Eve, Published: Dec 24,201807:54 AM by Arpitha Rao

[10] https://www.dtnext.in/Lifestyle/Fashion/2018/12/24075457/1100459/A-walk-to-explore-the-less-seen-side-of-Santhome-on-.vpf

[11] The Hindu, Beauty brings down barriers, Kombai S Anwar, APRIL 27, 2017 16:26 IST, UPDATED: APRIL 27, 2017 16:26 IST

[12] https://www.thehindu.com/society/history-and-culture/ghazals-inside-a-church/article18252815.ece

The Indian woman who went to Korea and became the Queen – the Korea-Indian connection – Do the pro-Tamil groups want to communalize it? [3]

May 24, 2018

The Indian woman who went to Korea and became the Queen – the Korea-Indian connection – Do the pro-Tamil groups want to communalize it? [3]

 Prof Nagarahan - korea - India

The claims of V. Nagarajan and Antartica Tamizhan: Nagarajan’s paper continues, “The materials gathered from multiple sources which includes intentional and unintentional resources related to the first century CE. Reveals that there was no kingdom by name Ayodhya in north India.  Further the cartographic maps particularly the Greek cartography highlighting the Eastern Hemisphere clearly showed the existence of Ay kingdom in south India and not in north India.

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The visual pattern clearly shows the evolution of Gaya kingdom in Korean peninsula over a period from BCE 100 to 400 CE.  The maps also clearly indicate the change in Tamilnadu all the kingdoms including the Ay kingdom were replaced by the Kalabras.  The presence of Ay and Kongu in Tamilnadu when the Gaya kingdom emerged will help the researchers to formulate a hypothesis to establish the Korean Queen Indian princess connection. The present paper goes to prove that historizing  the legend may lead to a tenable hypothesis that the princess be from south India particularly from Pandiya kingdom than from the Ayodhya kingdom”. Then, he concluded with, “The present paper further points out the direction for future research initiatives by proposing a new paradigm with new hypotheses, methodologies and new models”. Ironically, all these narratives are available in “Mintamil” website, where  one “Antartica Tamilan” has posted in Tamil. Though, we do not know whether Nagarajan has copied from “Antartica Tamilan” or both are one and the same person, it is evident that the “research” has been biased, preconceived and concocted much against the research methodology.

Korea Queen - tamilachi ruled

The aggressive U-tube propaganda on “Sembavala Rani”: As pointed out, the same stuff is converted into U-tube with photos and circulated. Particularly, they chose to praise heavily Kannan and Orissa Balu for the excellent, marvellous and extraordinary discover made[1]. Suggestuve narrative,  prompting description and story-telling pattern expose the propagandist nature. Particularly, these videos have been with same photographs, same narratives with male and female voices[2]. “Coral Shree” consolidated all stuff available in “Mintamil” in another video[3]. She claims that she has only discovered the tortoise route, similar jewelry worn by Tamil and Korean women, the fish symbol, “Sembavalam” and so on. Thus, it is evident that these have been “stage managed” and aimed at propaganda and self-promotion using their expertise. Under the banner of “Tamil Heritage Foundation,” they have brought a book “Historical, archaeological, linguistic, cultural and biological links between Korea and India – Kaya and Pandya” by Kannan and obviously translated in Tamil “Koreavin Tamil Rani”.

Korea Queen -RJB-photo

Provocative captions chosen for U-tubes: Some of the captions chosen for U-tubes have been following:

1.       The Korean goddess was a Tamil woman – the Korean embassy has been in confusion because of plot hatched by India. This has been blatantly anti-Indian nature, as if India tries to confuse the origin of the queen, tracing Ayodhya instead of ancient Tamizhagam.
2.      The goddess of the Korean people was a “Tamlilachi” – a suppressed History of Tamils. Note, here “Tamlilachi” connotes a fanatic and fundamentalist expression for Tamil woman. The “suppression” of Tamil history and such other accusations have been absurd and meaningless. Just claims are not enough, unless, historical evidences are produced.
3.      The “Tamlilachi” who ruled Korea. The fanatic and fundamentalist expression “Tamlilachi” has been mischievous and unhistorical.
4.      The other side of History – The Korean goddess was a Tamil woman [With the background photo of demolition of disputed structure at Ayodhya]. This also proves the pro-Tamil, anti-north, anti-BJP propaganda, smacks any worth of research.
5.      The Tamil Empress / Queen of Korea.

 

Whatever may be the origin, the claim of queen, empress, ruling Korea etc, have been far-fetched and unwarranted.

Korea Queen - Tamil history suppressed

What the videos want to convey?: The tone and tenor of the narratives, the way they are presented with photographs, the expressions used “suppressed history of Tamils,” “hidden truth of Tamil queen,” “the lot of India” etc., shows the intention of the U-tubes in circulation. Generally, in Tamilnadu, the Tamil linguistic chauvinism has been order of the day and such groups could exploit people easily under one or the other pretext.  Though, the concepts of race has been proved myth, they have been continue to stick to such unhistorical race hypotheses and theories exhibiting their attitude of racism and racialism. Such ideologists and promoted experts still talk, interpret and write in terms of “Aryan” and “Dravidian” races and so on. The Tamil diaspora, where pro-Tamil, former LTTE associates, radical Tamil activists and such groups have been active with resources, they have been carrying out such propaganda with ulterior motives. At any cost, the “Tamil chauvinism” cannot be boiled, super-heated and turned to “Tamil separatism” with this type of propagandist attitude. So under such circumstances, the videos and related contents with intent, purport and purpose raise many serious questions in the Indian context.

Korea Queen - Indias plan

Researchers cannot be partisan, anti-Indian and separatist activist: Researchers do not accuse each other or present unhistorical narratives with emotional inducement and excitement for any linguistic group with racial tinge. Particularly, Kannan like experts living in Germany, Germany citizen knows very well how racism works in European countries and Tamilnadu. The “Dravidastan” / “Thani-Tamilnadu”claims are made still here in Tamilnadu lon every pretext. Therefore, the narrtives, symbols, photos, used show anti-India propaganda also. Why then these researchers indulge in such activities?  Incidentally, just last month, their associate and partner, Subashini Tremmel[4] indulged in promoting “thomas myth” through a video[5], that has been blatantly unhistorical and supporting church frauds. Former Archbishop was involved with forged research with Achya Paul and the cae went to Madras high court. Though, the case was settled out of court to save the honour of the church and the bishop, it exposed the dubious research, manufacture of forged evidences and fabrication of copper plates. Though, it was pointed out to her, she kept silent. Therefore, definitely, a doubt arises as to what exactly these researchers want to do with Indians and India? As they have been well-resourced, well-placed and well-informed persons, it is unbelievable that they could have involved in such activities.  As few suggestions are added to conclude:

Suro and Heo ok

  1. Historical research should be free from bias, prejudice and preconceived ideas.
  2. As “Aryan-Dravian race” hypotheses and theories have been declared unhistorical, such interpretation would not do any good in research.
  3. Indians cannot be divided on the basis of linguistic interpretation, excessive repetition of myth-making without any regard for history, historicity and historical evidences.
  4. “Kumarikkandam” hypothesis cannot be a basis for historiography disregarding historical evidences and chronology.
  5. In SEA, the lengends, myhistory and narratives have been more in Sanksrit [not that with any bias], supported by inscriptioonal evidences.
  6. The pre-Pallava inscriptions of SEA should be an eye-opener for Indian researchers, as their Pallava inscriptions are dated later.
  7. As people of Bengal, Orissa, Andhra and Tamilnadu interacted with the SEA countries, all of their influences could be found, but, without any linguistic bias.
  8. In act, the contacts of Bengal, Orissa, and Andhra have been more than Tamilnadu, however, during the medieval period, the Cholas had indelible impression on many factors.

©Vedaprakash

24-05-2018

Akanda dravidastan

[1] கண்ணன் மற்றும் ஒரிசா பாலு – போன்றோரைக் குறிப்பிட்டு உலா வரும் வீடியோ –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wu5gucJMLs

[2] Inside Tamil, Published on Oct 1, 2017; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3nzzYP4w6c

[3] coral shree, 2ஆம் உலகத்தமிழ் எழுத்தாளர்கள் மாநாடு, Published on Jun 15, 2017; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWJwATMVlag

[4] https://www.facebook.com/subashini.thf

[5] See her Facebook, U-tube etc., in fact, in “Mintamil” her friends have warned about the myth and advised not be part of such frauds. I have sent an e-mail pointing out the facts, though, she replied he first one, she did not reply to my second e-mail.