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The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (3)

December 29, 2015

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (3).

RSS briefed about the conference earlier - Indian Express, Aug 17, 2015

ABISY, RSS and women: In August itself, the RSS briefed about the conference[1] as could be noted from the Indian express. From December 24 to 26, Akhil Bharatiya Itihas Sankalan Yojana (ABISY) will hold a three-day conference in Mysore, where around 1,000 delegates will discuss “Women in Indian culture: through the ages”. “We will discuss their strength and their importance in various phases of Indian history. Women in Rig Vedic times enjoyed a high status in society but due to several reasons their status began to decline,” said Balmukund, an RSS pracharak working with ABISY. Sources say an RSS meeting in Nainital discussed the gender ratio in RSS affiliates (see chart). “Representation of women is gradually increasing in our organisations. At the Ahmedabad conclave, we will discuss several aspects of women empowerment and their role in our organisations,” said Mahila Samanway chief Geeta Tayi Gunde, who coordinates among the affiliates on women’s issues. Though RSS shakhas don’t allow women, a separate organisation called Rashtra Sevika Samiti holds women’s shakhas on the lines of RSS shakhas[2]. But, RSS has been having dialogue with Christians and Muslims. However, they are not able to counter negative reorting of media, whenever, it is mentioned that they are against so-and-so and so on[3].

Aggressive left historiansThe aggressive domination of the Leftist and Muslim historians: The excessive, extreme and unnecessary domination of the leftists and Muslim groups over the proceedings of IHC has been resented, questioned and examined by neutral historians, archaeologists and other connected experts many times. The way they have been projecting the medieval and modern periods and suppressing the ancient period and also the interpretation of national, social, religious and political issues, problems and controversies in a biased manner much against the interests of common Indians[4]. The IHC coetrie have been authoritatively imposing such one-sided view for the last 60 years, as could be noted not only from the yearly proceedings volumes, but also their interviews, views and comments registered in the media on various occassions. Ironically the charges of so-called elite, eminent and emeritus hisorians have been proved baseless even at the level of Supreme Court, when their own engaged experts filed petitions alleging the saaffronization of educational curriculum, academic and social institutions, the Hon’ble Court ruled out dismissing them. Romila Thapar agitated and openly questioned the judgment dubbing as “Hindutwa judgment” and declared that they would be appealing against the judgment, but noting happened. So in a democaratic country, all views have to be accommodated, naturally, the so-called rightist, nationalist and hindutwa views also be provided space equally. As the dominant leftist and Muslim coetrie does not relish this, the ideological struggle has now been turned into political one and for which they are responsible. This was revealed even during the IHC-2014 jeld at JNU taking the issue of “glorification of Nehruvian era”[5].

marxist-historian-work-together-ideologicallyABISY, RSS and IHC: RSS and IHC were having ideological struggle over Indin history, historiography and methodoloy for the last three decades. While the IHC dominant groups have been moving ahead with the current topics, recent issues and contemporary problems, the rightist, nationalist and patriotic counterparts have not even realized their exisence. Most of them have been almost The IHC ideological bandwagon and aggressive coetrie many times do not recongize peer group experts, only because of the reason that they might be against their ideology. Thus, many prominent, professional and secialized historians, archaeologists, epigraphists, numismaticians and others were / are never invited or allowed to attend the conference by their own “rogue mannerism” but showing off as “expertized professionalism”.  Though RSS has been trying to counter them through ABISY and BISS, their heads, zonal heads and members have been –

  1. Not matching with the professionalism of the leftist and Muslim ideologists.
  2. The vigour started in 1980s died down with changed persons heading[6].
  3. Instead of “offensive”, “defensive” position is taken in the match, however, there have been some individual fighters, but they are ignored by the rightists.
  4. In spite of the judicial victory[7], they could not continue the academic struggle with proficiency, professionalism and practice[8].
  5. inexperienced in preseting papers, if at all, they come forward to present.
  6. read and understand Indian history any perspective.
  7. Ameteurish, unprofessional and incompetent in dealing with their ideological opponents.
  8. Dormant because of excessive patriotism and refused to look at other ideologists in right perspective.
  9. Ignore, sideline and even disregard the exerienced who come to join, work with and get along the ABISY and BISS.
  10. Active only when BJP or NDA is in power and latent during other periods.

Unless, the rightists do not revaluate, reassess and reorganize themselves, they cannot win the battle.

Nehruvian era, IHC, ICHR and RSS (2014): Even as Madan Mohan Malaviya and Shyamaprasad Mookerjee continue to make news headlines, Jawaharlal Nehru dominated a day in New Delhi where historians praised his role, at an event that was sponsored among others by the state governments of Kerala, Karnataka and Assam, all Congress-led administrations. The three-day long Platinum Jubilee edition of the Indian History Congress (IHC), which concluded in JNU last year, also counts the Union government bodies ICHR andUGC among its main sponsors. The IHC Association, which organizes the meet, had set a broad direction for the annual event with the theme ‘Humanism, Tolerance and Reason: Defining the Contours of History’. But two panels under the auspices of the left-leaning JNU and Aligarh Historians’ Society (AHS) expressly focused on discussions and paper presentations concerning the Nehruvian Era and its current relevance, and the past and present forms of inequality in India, respectively[9]. But Dr Rakesh Batabyal, Local Secretary of the IHC, said there was nothing much political to read into the event. “We had written to all state governments for sponsorship and received from these three. Also, the HRD Ministry through UGC and ICHR has also sponsored the event, so there is nothing political about it,” he said. Batabyal pointed out that ICHR head Y. Sudharshan Rao – an appointee of the BJP-led Central government[10] – had also been invited and he attended the event. “The reason for focusing on Nehru was on account of the commemoration of the ex-PM’s Golden death anniversary. Also, we have voices from the economic right to left, it was an open field, he added. He also conceded, though, that finding historians from cultural right was difficult, and thus no presence could be seen,” he said. On its part, the RSS-affiliated history research organization was not too impressed with the event. “We used to go for the event in the past, but now none of our office bearers goes. The IHCA is a communist-leaning organization,” Mukul Pandey (sic), General Secretary of the ABISY, told ET[11].

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[1] New Indian Express, Gender balance: RSS working to get more women in its ranks, Written by Shyamlal Yadav | New Delhi | Updated: August 17, 2015 2:27 pm.

[2] http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/gender-balance-across-organs-rss-looks-to-get-more-women-in-its-ranks/

[3] The ABISY is working on several projects to rewrite history. Last year the outfit organised a function at National Museum to pay homage to the “last Hindu emperor of Delhi Hemu Vikramaditya”. From December 24 to 26, ABISY will hold a three-day conference in Mysore, where around 1,000 delegates will discuss “Women in Indian Culture: Through the Ages.” – See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/tatya-tope-rss-linked-outfit-backs-descendants-theory-on-his-death/#sthash.KZjgannq.dpuf

[4] The Proceeding volumes sprak the truth and the papers chosen to include expose their bias, prejudice and hatred against others. Many times, very good researched papers, eventhough recommended by the sectional presidents after much appreciated discussion, were not included brcause of such professional, ideological and regional bias.

[5] The Economic Times, Historians praise Jawaharlal Nehru at annual Indian History Congress Association meet,AKSHAY DESHMANE, ET Bureau Dec 30, 2014, 09.33PM IST.

[6] During the New Delhi session, many of the faithfuls simply sent the life membership money with the note, “As per the directions of Mananiya Moropant Pingely, I hereby send the fees”. Alerted and bewildered by them, the ruling IHC bandwagon simply rejected their membership. However, both had been proved wrong, as the Delhi High Court decided differently, when they went to court.

[7] The so-called “Hindutwa” judgment consequent to the NCERT issue and coupled with “saffronization of academic curriculum”, the rightwing ideologists did not pursue the issue professionally.

[8] Note below what Balamkund says about it! . On its part, the RSS-affiliated history research organization was not too impressed with the event. “We used to go for the event in the past, but now none of our office bearers goes. The IHCA is a communist-leaning organization,” Mukul Pandey (sic), General Secretary of the ABISY, told ET.

[9] IHC dominat ideologists manipulate the session by bringing some unassuming paper presenters to force their views on others. This they have been doing in the case of RJM controversy also, making one fellow to present a paper “Ayodhya was in Afganistan”!

[10] This way of reporting has also been biased, because during the non-BJP regimes, the members were only the “appointees” of Communist, Muslim and Congress parties. In fact, the media should be balanced enough to address the issues properly without any pre-conceived notions.

[11] http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-12-30/news/57528747_1_ichr-jnu-event

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The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (2).

December 29, 2015

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (2).

1.Shri-Vajubhai-Rudabhai-Vala-Governor-of-Karnataka-inaugurated10th-National-Conference-on-Woman-in-Indian-Culture-through-the-Ages12.18 am (24-12-2015) Senate Hall, Mysuru: M. A. Jayashree sang an inagural song, read “Sankalpa” for the Conference and then, all stood up to sing Janaganamana!

The governors and VIPs arrived and the inagural ritual started.

Those who were on the Dias:

  1. Balamukund.
  2. Prof K. S. Rangappa, VC, University of Mysuru was the Chief Gust of Honour
  3. HE Vajubhai Vala Karnataka
  4. HE Mridula Sihna Goa
  5. Sri Suresh Joshi Bhayyaji, Sarkaryavah, RSS was the guest speaker.
  6. Satish Mittal.
  7. Tontadarya, ex-MLC

ABISY - inagural function Suresh Joshi Bhayyaji, Sarkaryavah, RSS was the guest speakerThe speech of Suresh Bhaiyyaji Joshi: 12.25 pm: The 10th national conference of the Akhil Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Yojana began here on Thursday with RSS general secretary Suresh Bhaiyyaji Joshi finding fault with the tradition of confining women to household work[1]. Talking in Hindi, he said, family system was the root of the country, that should be protected by ensuring education, health and safety of womenfolk. Delineating on the need to set right the history of the country, Joshi said, the samiti has taken up many works to introduce the core strength of the country to the people. “While Aryans were indigenous people of India, Britishers falsely propagated that they came from outside. The truth was established after researching deep into the issue. The origin of Sindhu-Saraswati River has been traced”, added Joshi[2]. Addressing the gathering at the inaugural of the conference titled ‘Woman in Indian culture through the ages’ by the yojana, Mr. Joshi said there was a need for women to emerge from the confines of their homes and assume roles in industry, education, politics and other spheres of life. If a country were to achieve progress economically, socially and geographically, there was a need to empower women, he said emphasising the importance of creating awareness on the issue. He also said women should populate not only the army, but also the air force and navy. While favouring bringing Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and various adivasis into the mainstream, who he said “may be weak, but not unwise”, Mr. Joshi said that issues relating to rural and tribal women, who comprise 70 per cent of women, should be brought on the agenda of the discussions. He called for the need to establish a just society on the basis of equality that is free from western influence. Mr. Joshi emphasised the need to present correct history. Research helped bust the myth that Aryans had invaded India before the Mughals and the British. That Aryans were not foreigners, but were locals, had been proved by scientific evidence, he claimed[3].

Goa Governor Mridula Sinha speaking at the ABISYs 10th national conference in Mysuru on Thursday 24-12-2015-PHOTO- M.A. SRIRAMWhat HE Mridula Sihna Goa spoke: 12.50 to 1.15 pm: HE Mridula Sihna Goa spoke in Hindi. Referring to the practice among a section of the women to avoid bearing children, Goa Governor Mridula Sinha described motherhood as nature’s best gift to a woman[4]. Speaking after inaugurating the national conference organised by the Akhila Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Yojana here on Thursday, Ms. Sinha said that she still advises her daughter against forgetting to serve her husband his food even if she does not have the time to cook[5]. “But, never should a woman go hungry,” she said. Also, she went on to say that it was important for men to discuss women’s issues[6]…………the three-day meet should discuss the relevance of nature, culture and decency as they are inter-connected with each other. While nature remains intact after being created, the Indian culture is largely dependent on the nature.Describing motherhood as god’s gift to womenfolk, Sinha regretted that new-age women were avoiding motherhood, that was once protected and preserved, equally contributing to the welfare of the society[7].

6.Shri-Vajubhai-Rudabhai-Vala-Governor-of-Karnataka-inaugurated10th-National-Conference-on-Woman-in-Indian-Culture-through-the-AgesHE Vajubhai Vala spoken on the conference: 1.16 to 1.23 pm: HE Vajubhai Vala Karnataka spoke in Hindi. Governor Vajubhai Vala, who presided over the event, said that women, who play a strong role inside their houses, should display their strength even outside. Though he regretted the delay in the passage of the Women’s Reservation Bill that seeks to set aside 33 per cent of the seats in Parliament and State Assemblies, Mr. Vala said that many women are now occupying powerful posts in the bureaucracy. ….Women nowadays have taken a lead in many fields, with 70 per cent women bagging top honours on the academic front[8]. Most importantly, it’s women who inculcate culture among children. Be it any women, men should ensure their safety and security[9].On the role of women in politics, Vala said, there are examples of women leaders occupying top posts like president and prime minister in India, while in western countries it is more common to see women leaders occupying key positions. Thus, the entire inagural session was carried on in Hindi. After lunch, the paper-reading session started in different rooms of the building situated next to library. The Kannda and Sanskrit sessions were arranged seperately, whereas, the Hindi and English papers were mixed together and the paper-presenters, particularly, those who presented in English could find difficult, as their papers were interpersed between many Hindi papers.

3.Shri-Vajubhai-Rudabhai-Vala-Governor-of-Karnataka-inaugurated10th-National-Conference-on-Woman-in-Indian-Culture-through-the-Ages25-12-2015 (Friday): Paper reading session. Most of the papers were in Hindi and the delegates who did not know Hindi could not understand what was presented. They felt they missed important information, data and information that might have been contained in such presentation. And many papers were in the form of “articles” and not of the nature of “reseach paper”. The emphasis made the title and the sub-themes made the presenters to repeat, duplicate and even rehash the same points, aspects and subject matter. Of course, the “cut and paste” methodology was also noted and pointed out by the organizers themselves.

2.30 to 4.40 pm: General Body Meeting of ABISY.

5.00 to 7.40 pm: Visit to Mysuru palace lightning.

ABISY 10th National Conference inagurated by Mysuru-Goa Governors-Deccan Herald26-12-2015 (Saturday): Paper reading session continued with the same conditions pointed out above. Had the papers been scrutinized properly, such things could not have been occurred. The corrections, modifications and rewriting could have been intimated so that the quality of paper presentation could have been maintained. Such exercise would be useful and educative for budding researchers in paper preparation and presentation. Women paper presenters had not addressed the issues, problems faced by the Indian women. Some women appeared to have felt that “they are happy” and therefore, other “women are also happy”.  Most of the woman paper presenters had not been aware of the current issues dealt with in India in different spheres and thus, papers had been of “glorification of the past” nature. Even in the globalization context also, though only few papers were presented, they had been in a dilemma as to whether to point out the positive aspects or the negative aspects that affect the Indian society.

ABISY - paper presentation, discussion going onWhy papers deviated much away from the theme taken for the conference: The hospitality had been excellent, but, unfortunately, the academic proceedings had been marred by some inherent factors. The subject matter of the whole proceedings was to concentrate on women-issues focussing on the current relating to ancient moral values. The first circular declared that the central subject proposed was “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to present” adding that research papers were also invited on the following topics such as –

  1. Historiography
  2. History in the Puranas
  3. Vaavasi (Tribal) history
  4. District history
  5. Miscellaneous (Archaeology, inscriptions, numismatics, art and architectue, spread of Indian culture abroad etc)

But, the Second circular still enlarged the topics deviating from the women and women-issues givilng the list as follows:

  1. Origin of Indian culture and women
  2. Women in Saraswati-Sidhu civilization.
  3. Women in epic-age
  4. Women in Puranas
  5. Women in Jaina-Buddhist period.
  6. Women in Mauryan and post-Mauryan period.
  7. Women in Gupta and post-Gupta period
  8. Women depicted in indian art / performing art, paintings, wooden, terracota, stone and metallic art / folklore, music, dance etc.
  9. Women in folk tradition and culture
  10. Women in medieval age.
  11. Role of women in freedom struggle
  12. Globalization and Indian women

Other general topics are also as follow:

  1. Historiography
  2. History in the Puranas
  3. Vaavasi (Tribal) history
  4. Regional history

Other Academic subjects:

Archaeology, Epigraphy, numismatics, art and architectue, Indian culture.

The final circular dated 16-10-2015 repeated the above. Thus, the circulars deviated from the theme of the conference, with the diverged subjects and digressing from the idea of the subject matter conceived. Accordingly, the paper-presenters, particularly, the majority of the casual-types had taken full liberty to take any subject and came with “hurried-haste-rehassed” stuff that was criticized by the organizers and the sectional presidents. As they seperated Sanskrit and Kannda paper presentation, Hindi paper presentation or the English paper presentation could have been held seperately. As most of the paper presenters did not follow any “style-sheet” and research methodology, they can be taught about. Incidentally, as ABISY and BISSs have been working on “history writing and re-writing”, they should conduct some workshop for their “paper-presenters” as to how to prepare a reasearch paper. They should be asked to attend IHC, SIHC etc., to listen to historians, interact with others and get experience.

Valedictory function: The valedictory funstion was held at the A.V. Hall without any lack lusture and the same speakers again dwelt upon the same issues in the same manner. Again, the entire ritual was in Hindi. Instead of getting opinion from the delegates about the academic conduct of the conference, it was wound up in a much routine manner. When a particular person was speaking “over-enthusiastically”, the audience started clapping several times. Instead of getting the hint, he continued to talk with spirit provoking them to clap again. There was no indication as to when the 11th National Conference would be held after three years in 2018.

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29-12-2015

[1] Laiq A. Khan, Don’t restrict women to household word, The Hindu, Mysuru, December 25, 2015, Updated: December 25, 2015 05:46 IST

[2] http://www.deccanherald.com/content/519415/men-should-empower-women-says8200governor.html

[3] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/dont-restrict-women-to-household-work/article8028161.ece

[4] http://newsnirantara.in/?p=6305

[5] Star of Mysore online, Goa Guv opens Women’s Meet, December 25, 2015; http://www.starofmysore.com/searchinfo.asp?search1=45313&search2=newsheadlines

[6] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/dont-restrict-women-to-household-work/article8028161.ece

[7] http://www.deccanherald.com/content/519415/men-should-empower-women-says8200governor.html

[8] Deccan Herald, Men should empower women, saysGovernor, Mysuru: Dec 25, 2015, DHNS.

[9] http://www.deccanherald.com/content/519415/men-should-empower-women-says8200governor.html

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (1).

December 29, 2015

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” (1).

Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore

Naramada hostel one of the accommodations, where delegates stayed

24-12-2015 (Thursday): The Akhila Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Yojana (hereinafter mentioned as ABISY) New Delhi, has been conducting National Conferences once in three years in various parts of India on specfic themes. Of which “The Aryan Problem” had drawn the attention of national and international scholars creating an impact[1]. Besides, there have been national seminars, workshops and Scholars meet (Vidwat Parishads) conducted at different states on specified topics[2].

Sl.

No

Year Where held
1 December,  1991

 

Ujjain
2 Dravidian Problem Dec.26th and 27th 1992 Warangal
3 1994
4 1997
5 The Role of Bhakti movement in Hindu renaissance 2000

October 28th to 30th 1999

Mysore
6 2003
7 Saraswati and the War of Independence 1857 November 17th to 19th 2006 Khurukshetra
8 2009
9 Bharatiya Nationality from past to present October 26-28, 2012 Gwalior
10 Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern 2015 Mysuru
ABISY - Haribhava Vaze, president, talking with Balamund, Ratnesh Tripathi etc

ABISY – Haribhava Vaze, president, talking with Balamund, Ratnesh Tripathi etc

The 10th National Conference of ABISY was held at Mysore from December 24th to 26th 2015 on “Women in Indian culture: From ancient to Modern” jointly organized / sponsored by the Akhila Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Yojana  Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore, Mysuru and Indian Council of historical reseach (hereinafter mentioned as ICHR).  As the theme attracted, some came with papers delving upon the main theme. On 23rd morning itself, about 200 delegates were there in the premises of Regional Institute of Education (RIE), Manasagangotri and they were accommodated in the hostels of Narmada, Krishna, Ganga etc. As more and more delegates started coming, they were accommodated in Terapanta Bhawan. VIP-delegates were accommodated in the University Guest House. The delegate fee of Rs. 750/- was charged and 870 were registered delegates as on 25-12-2015. The press was also briefed about it earlier[3].

ABISY - Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore

ABISY – Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore

Centenary Celebration Committee of University of Mysore[4]: For this, K.S Rangappa VC had appointed a centenary celebration committee. The committee consists of MPs, the former Prime Minister H.D Deve Gowda, former vice chancellors, litterateurs and other distinguished scientists[5]. After rigorous discussion the committee has come up with some projects with members of all shades of political and economic interests[6]. About the request of Rs.100 crores for the celebration and allocation of Rs.50 crires, “The Hindu” reported characteristically[7]. Even as the University of Mysore was getting ready to host its centenary celebration, the government, in a goodwill gesture, announced a grant of Rs. 50 crore for the historic fete which began on July 27, 2015, the day the university was established in 1916. The university had sought Rs. 100 crore from the government for the centenary fete. Chief Minister Siddaramaiah, however, doled out Rs. 50 crore in the State Budget presented by him[8]. Expressing gratitude towards the government’s gesture, VC K.S. Rangappa said, “I thank the government for its benevolence. Actually, we had sought Rs. 100 crore from it for realising certain projects. But we are happy with the allocation.” A website was created and brochure issued[9]. Thus, among the other projects and programmes, the hosting of the Conference was included in the agenda by the Committee.

ABISY - Senate hall entrance - Inagural function

ABISY – Senate hall entrance – Inagural function

Inagural session (24-12-2015): The inaguration was held at the “Senate Hall” and there was secuirity checking, as two State Governors Karnataka HE Vajubhai Vala and Goa HE Mridula Sihna were participating. The delegates were taken to the venue from the Hostels by buses and the hall was full within half-an-hour. Sri Suresh Joshi Bhayyaji, Sarkaryavah, RSS was the guest speaker. Prof K. S. Rangappa, VC, University of Mysuru was the Chief Gust of Honour. They were waiting for the arrival of the Governors. On the stage nothing was there and the backdrop was just started putting up. The chairs were brought one by one and arranged on the stage. Three framed pictures were brought and placed on the chairs, but, they were not fittimg into, so two were removed and only one – that of Bharat Mata was accommodated in a chair. As mentioned, the programme was not started by 9.15, but by 10.15 am in a different way. The Zonal incharges of Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Samiti (hereinafter mentioned as BISS) were called.

ABISY - Senate hall entrance - Inagural function - secuirity check

ABISY – Senate hall entrance – Inagural function – secuirity check

Historians honoured by the organizedrs: 10.24 am: The programme was started. Each zonal incharge was asked to announce the historian selected. Thus, the following announced their respective historian as mentioned against each:

  1. Kataraia, Udaipur…………by……….
  2. Sher Singh announced………….
  3. Dilip Kumar Bhukkan announced for Assam by…………
  4. Anand Sharma (Uttaranchal)…………
  5. Rahman Ali, Ujjain was selected by………….
  6. Seernivasa Rao announced Prof A. Sundara.
  7. Anuradha (Telingana) announced Y. Sudhrshana Rao[10].

It was surprising that for the States, Seemanthra, Tamilnadu and Kerala, no historian of worth could be recognized and announced by them for honouring. It is clear that either the orgnizers or the Zonal incharge could have been so ignorant about their respective regions / States to select and nominate the historians or they did not want take such decision judiciously considering the facts. Ironically, the BISS, Tamilnadu shows many popular historians in their organization – Dr K. V. Raman, Dr R. Nagaswamy, Dr Rama Bai, Prof Dr K. M. Rao, Dr S. Kalyanaraman and others, yet the Zonal incharge could not think of anybody snd nominate nobody! Of course, there have been many-more in those states. When all were happening, many came (some important persons, scholars and elderly people) and returned, as none could recognize them or made them to seat! For instance, Tumkur University VC came and kept waiting and standing, for some time and he was not cared by anybody. Perhaps, the hall received more members to be acommodated than available seating arrangement!

Dr S Kalyana Raman lecture at IGNCA Bangalore Dec.23, 2001

Dr S Kalyana Raman lecture at IGNCA Bangalore Dec.23, 2001 – generally, he used to present on “Saraswati” related topics.

A presentation on “Sarasawati River Civilization”: 10.36 am: Inagural song was sung.

10.40 am: Welcoming the delegates, the person concluded with “Jai Hind, Jai Karnataka”!

11.01 am: Prashant Bharadwaj, Haryana Water Board, started explaining about the “Sarasawati River Civilization” with some slides, which were not at all attractive. Moreover, he was explaing in Hindi and thus evidently noot understood by the delegates coming from different states other than the Hindi speaking ones. It has to be mentioned that earlier Dr S. Kalyanaraman used to give presentation on “Sarasawati River Civilization” with many slides and lot of information, as he has been working on the subject and written many books[11].  He has published many books on the Sindhu-Saraswati civilization. Now, why he was not there was intriguing, as obviously, his absence was reveleaed through some slides used as noted.  However, it was learnt later that he had sent a PPT with many slides for presentation, but ignored by the organizers. About the differing views on “Saraswati” river, a comprehensive note can be seen here[12].

ABISY - inagural function - Press not accommodated initially

ABISY – inagural function – Press not accommodated initially

11.20 to 11.35 am: On RHS of the auditorioum, thee was commotion, as the seats meant for the press people were occupied by the delegates. So when chairs were put before the front road, the police objected to it on secuirity reasons.  The shouting stopped and they were made to settle down.

ABISY - inagural function - Press not accommodated initially- secuirity protest

ABISY – inagural function – Press not accommodated initially- secuirity protest

11.35 am: There were patriotic songs sung by different people. All these attempts were evidently meant for adjusting the delay caused for the arrival of the Governors.

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29-12-2015

[1] The all India seminar was held at Bangalore on July 21st to 23rd 1991and the book was published in June 1983 edited by S. B. Deo and Suryanath Kamath.

  1. B. Deo and Suryanath Kamath (Eds.), The Aryan Problem, Bharatiya Itihasa Sankalana Samiti, Pune, 1993.

[2] Seminar on the “Aryan Problem”, July 21-23, 1991 at Bangalore;

National workshop on Dating in Indian arechaeology, Dec.19-21, 1993, Mysore;

National seminar on Indian Civilization and its chronology, August 18-19, 1995 Madras;

Workshop on “Concept, source and changing pattern of History writing”, Jan.30, 31 and Feb.1, 1998, Uttan, Bhayandar; gama Sangoshti, June.20-22, 1998, Melekote;

National Seminar on “Contribution of South India to Indian Art and Architecture”,  January.26-29, 1999, Kanyakumari, Tamilnadu; etc.

[3] http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/history-conference-from-thursday/article8016179.ece

[4] http://centenary.uni-mysore.ac.in/index.php

[5] http://thecompanion.in/university-of-mysore-glorifying-the-aura-of-a-historic-journey/

[6] http://centenary.uni-mysore.ac.in/advisory-committee

[7] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/rs-50-crore-announced-for-centenary-celebration-of-university-of-mysore/article6993056.ece

[8] The Hindu, Rs. 50 crore announced for centenary celebration of University of Mysore, Shankar Bennur, Updated: March 14, 2015 05:42 IST.

[9] http://centenary.uni-mysore.ac.in/centenary-brochure

[10] It is intriguing to note that he resingned last month as the salary he demanded was not paid. While members of the ICHR contacted by The Hindu said they didn’t know any details about Prof Rao’s step, some confirmed that the Council had recommended an honorarium of Rs. 1.5-lakh per month for Prof. Rao to the government, but no decision had been taken on this yet. Significantly, the ICHR head’s position is an honorary one, for which no salary is paid.

 http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ichr-chairman-sudershan-rao-resigns/article7923496.ece

[11] Indus script deciphered, Indian Ocean Community, Rastram, A Theory for wealth of Nations, Public administration in India, Meluha – Tree of life, Akkadian Rising Sun, Sagan finds Saraswati, Indian Writings in Ancient Neat East and many othrers.

[12] https://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/category/saraswati-river/

Doubting Thomas and supporting Kalainjar: Implications of the “mythical Thomas movie”

October 12, 2015

Doubting Thomas and supporting Kalainjar: Implications of the “mythical Thomas movie”

Note: This I posted in www.indianinteracts.com in 2008, but, all postings disappeared. Therefore, as I used to get retrieved on casual browzing, I get back some of them and hence posting here.

“Before and after July 3” – the day of Feast of Thomas!: Tamil people, our “Udan pirappugal” (brothers born with us) and “Rattathin rattam” (the blood of blood i.e, dearest of dearest) may not be knowing as to why our Kalainjar accepted to inaugurate the movie on July 3. But now news is coming that it was the day of Feast of Thomas which was liked by Karunanidhi, as he hates only panchangam and not almanac. That is why he changed the “New year” for Tamils, but he would adhere to their “panchangam”! So after prayer and speeches of others, Kalainjar was so moved to declare that “God has accepted him“! As Deccan Chronicle[1] reports:”Donning the believer”s mantle, the normally atheist chief minister said, “Whether I am accepted by God is more important than whether I accept God. I have to help humanity for being accepted by God. The audience applauded when he said this statement, which he had also made in the presence of Sai Baba last year.” Really, the “miracle of Casper” works! He is above God, so Jesus has to accept him and he / He would recommend Jehovah to accept!

Kalanjar, the historian propounds new hypothesis: He has not only become an official inagurator of the “mythical Thomas movie”, but also donned the role of “doubting Thomas historiographer”!”The chief minister said the martyrdom of St. Thomas had inspired him in many ways. Drawing a parallel to King Pari of the Sangam age, who was also killed by the conspiracy of several kings, he said, “History remembers those who were killed by conspirators.St. Thomas was also a victim of conspiracy.” Mr Karunanidhi launched the film by operating the movie camera.” The express reported of saying, “…history chose who to highlight, and St. Thomas was one such a noble soul. “We remember the man who was murdered. St. Thomas, but not the one who killed. History shows who is to be remembered”, he announced!

The confession that he was influenced by the “martyrdom” of “mythical Thomas” has been revealing! While “Pari Magalir” suffered a lot, the apocryphal Thomas too made many women suffer. Good historiography in deed, as he has shown the way to read Apocrypha to know more about the myths of Christianity, Christ, Mary, Mary Magdalene etc. The killer, conspiracy, martyr, etc., are interesting and Indians have to respond for such utterances. Particularly, the historians of all the so-called TNHC, SIHC, IHC etc., should come out.

 

Thus, Ishwar sharan[2] asks pertinently as follows:”The Roman Catholic bishops in Indiaowe Hindus an abject apology and crores in reparations for the Church”s crimes inIndia over the centuries, not a mega movie of a fictitious Apostle of India. But if they insist on the Rs 30 crore movie, are they going to tell the public the following facts about Judas Didymus Thomas as recorded in the Acts of Thomas that:

 

* Thomas was the look-alike twin brother of Jesus; (i.e, one more son to Mary?)

 

* Jesus sold Thomas as a slave for thirty pieces of silver; (slavery practiced, therefore no humanity, equality etc) 

 

* Thomas deceived the kings of Parthia-India” who gave him respect and hospitality; (mythical thomas was a deceit, cheat and fraud)

 

* Thomas was a thief; (no explanation is required, as Acts of Thomas says)

 

* Thomas abducted and locked-up women; (abductor of women, womanizer)

 

* Thomas engaged in various forms of black magic (sorcerer, exorcist competing with Jesus); and

 

* Thomas was executed by a Zoroastrian king who had initially shown him mercy and asked him to repent of his crimes and leave the country.” (but created all nonsense)

 

As Kalainjar has donned the role of “Thomas historiographer” or “the super hagiographer”, he would suitably reply covering the points raised. Dr. Paulraj Lourdusamy and chief researcher and scriptwriter of the film may learn a lot from the Kalainjar! 

Dr. Paulraj Lourdusamy, “the Church researcher: He is an ordained minister of the Catholic Church and is a priest of the archdiocese of Madras-Mylapore, India. He has doctoral degrees in the fields of Theology and Sociology and three doctorates earned from various foreign universities spending one year in libraries across the world to find the existing literature on St. Thomas. A Gold Medallist of the MadrasUniversity, he has also conducted doctoral research in the Educational Sciences. He is the author of the trilogy: Meditations on the Forty Names of Jesus, The Forty Parables of Jesus and The Forty Miracles of Jesus [3]. As the director of the venture, he clearly pointed out that the movie is being sponsored by the Madras archdiocese, with Vatican support, on a comparatively modest budget of $12 million. So Indians are fools to expect that such a with many multi-degree, multi-doctorate, multi-lingual genius should know the Arulappa-Acharya Paul, etc.

Like S. Rajamanickam S.J, R. Daniel Jayakumar questions theology: Though, Chinnappa has been trying to hush up the theological difference, Rev. Dr. R. Daniel Jayakumar of Kondu, Cuddalore, points out, “…….questions on certain gray areas like celibacy and vegetarianism still need convincing answers“, though Lurdusamy atnticipated that thomas’ encounter with the “reported animal and human sacrifice in the Chennai of first century” may create some controversy once the film is ready for release in 2010. Drawing reference to Deivanayagam, he notes that, “About three decades ago Dr M. Deivanayagam, a doctorate from Madras University and an authority on Tamil and early Christianity in India raised the pertinent question whether Tiruvalluvar was a Christian or not. Based on his thorough analysis of the biblical truths and profound wisdom found in the Thirukkural he concluded that he was.” Kamatchi Srinivasan [6] and Arunai Vaivelu Mudaliar[7] have already exposed the hollowness in such interpretation. 

Vegetarianism, Celibacy etc., do not bother Christians: Christians like Buddhists have been eating flesh and they are not strict “vegetarians” and therefore, it is a myth that Christianity is against “animal sacrifice” and so on. Moreover, the fundamental “Eucharist” exposes such myth, as a true Christian believes that the bread and wine are turning into the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ that would cleanse his / her sins. Arnold Toyanbee, Will Durant and other world great historians have pointed out that this “Eucharist” belief has been remnants of “cannibalism” or tribes, later converted into ritualization. Biblical references have been plenty to prove how the Christian heroes and heroines or gods and goddesses eat meat of all varieties. As for as celibacy is concerned, again Christians have no proof to that effect. As here, they depend upon apocryphal bibles, Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene lived together raised children (Grail legends may be referred to). The “Thomas myth” was developed only as a duplicate of “Jesus myth” as pointed out by many western historians and scholars (as pointed out by Ishwar Sharan above).  The International Institute for Tamil studies that published the book of Deivanayagam disowned and declared his work as “not based on research”.

“St. Thomas Apostle of  India Trust” produces “mythical Thomas” film: The film is to be produced in the name of “St. Thomas Apostle of India Trust” which has Archbishop A. M. Chinnappa, Deputy Archbishop Lawrence Pius, Treasurer of the diocese Mr. Ernest Paul and Dr. Paulraj as office-bearers. Of course, the Vatican would fund has been already accepted. Thus, it is clear that the Vatican tries hi-tech extravagancy for harvesting, as they have found out how the Indians have been addicted to movies. The next attempt would be depicting all apostles playing cricket with Jesus Christ as an umpire and Mary, Mary Magdalene and others watching from the stadium!  The “Trust” formed shows to escape from all legal wrangles as happened in the case of Arulappa vs Acharya Paul and thus, the money given would not be subjected to any controversy!

“Kalainjar was blessed with success” film: The Holy Spirit had descended on that day and blessed Kalanjar for victory in elections! Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi has asserted that the DMK-led alliance would sweep the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections in the state. “Mr Peter Alphonse wished me success in the ensuing Lok Sabha polls. His wishes will come true“. So Kalainjar knows that elections are coming and Peter knows that his wish would be fulfilled! 

 

We”ll Sweep Polls: CM

Courtesy: Deccan Chronicle 3 July 2008

CHENNAI July 3: Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi has asserted that the DMK-led alliance would sweep the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections in the state.  “Mr Peter Alphonse wished me success in the ensuing Lok Sabha polls. His wishes will come true,” he said while speaking at the launch of the film St.Thomas here on Thursday.  “I am proud of being referred to as the head of a `minority” government as my government has always toiled for the welfare and well-being of the minorities,” said Mr Karunanidhi.

 

It is pre-ordained and the chosen people would get what they want. He can only give what they want and in turn, they can only give what he wants! However, all may not tell always what they received every time!

Archbishop, Vatican, funds, script, studio etc., resemble the past events: Archbishop Chinnappa, Vatican support for the project, the same research, the same theme, but only evidences differ, as times have changed.

 

V      Now, there are no manuscripts, though studios are there;  

 

V      script is there, but no writing letters;  

 

V      no photography of manuscripts manufactured in studio, as cameras would come out and shoot;  

 

V      instead of going to Vatican, the Vatican itself supports the project:

 

V      Indian Cardinal Ivan Dias, Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of the Propagation of Faith, supports the project along with the bishops in Tamil Nadu, media said quoting Archbishop Chinnappa; thus, there is no Retzinger, of course, now he is the Pope;  

 

V      now the inaugural or symbolic shooter has been “Kalainjar”. Thus, the whole events make one remember the past events. That is why Dr. R. Daniel Jayakumar of Kondu, Cuddalore subtly questioned the theology drawing attention to the work done by Deivanayagam three decades back.Yes, now we do not have any K. P. Sunil to bring out his account in “The Illustrated weekly of India”, as we do not know where K. P. Sunil is and the journal died already! Ironically, Arulappa and Acharya Paul – the main actors have also not with us. Now, they cannot pressurize through Fr. Mariadas of Sri Villiputhur, as “Dr. Paulraj Lourdusamy, “the Church researcheris there with many degrees and three doctorates! And he would take care of!!

Would Ganesh Iyer alias John Ganesh alias Acharya Paul would get resurrected to question them on the Day of Judgement before 2010? Next to Sivadhama[8] and Ganapathy Upadhyaya[9], Ganesh Iyer has been the most or worst oppressed, suppressed, harassed and exploited human-being by the Church. He was given the money to fabricate and manufacture evidences to prove the fraudulent research of “Arulappa ” Deivanayagam” research of bringing mythical Thomas beyond Mesopotamia, down south to Madras, making him to meet Tiruvalluvar, Tiruvalluvar getting knowledge from Thomas and started writing Tirukkural, later te Saiva Siddhatis were enlightened by the Holy Spirit and becoming Siddhatis and so on!So now, the picture is completed:

–Hollywood stars are coming;

–superstars are engaged;

–Ajith, Salini are contacted;

–Perhaps Namita, Sakila would follow, as the film is in all languages and there are many songs!

 

So what Ganesh Iyer alias John Ganesh alias Acharya Paul would do, if he is resurrected according to the principles of Christianity? As an exorcist anyone – Chinnappa or Paulraj or Kalainjar himself in his new role of master of “martyriology, hagiography etc” would do it!

No conversion motive – another big lie from Chinnappa: Dr A.N. Chinnappa of Archdiocese of Madras-Mylapore declared that “It is not an attempt to convert people to our faith but to convey the message of this great saint“. If that is the case, the crores or million of dollar money could be straight away given to the “poor Christians” or the so-called “Dalit Christians” instead venturing into this type extravaganza, because, the amount would benefit them immediately. Moreover, the Church has already promised houses etc., for the Tsunami victims and the work is pending. Already Madras High Court has passed strictures against Seventh Day Adventists for building poor quality houses. Thus, under the circumstances, these learned and dive representatives could think about those poor souls also.Thus, they are having some hidden agenda as otherwise, he need not say that “It is not an attempt to convert people to our faith but to convey the message of this great saint“. Thus, naturally, other Indians, secular Indians etc., have to be concerned about the movie and its implications.

Why already proven fraudulent myth is selected for the movie theme?: It has already been pointed out many times that unimaginable fraud has been committed in the name of “doubting Thomas”, “mythical Thomas”, “apocryphal Thomas” etc. About the legal wrangle of “Acharya Paul-Arulappa”, the details came in the press in 1980s. Arulappa had to save his face by havig a “compromise settlement” with his agent Acharya Paul. Therefore, the repetition of such theme would amount to perpetuating the fraud. So all the connecting people, personalities and experts would be treated as aiding and abetting the fraud and treated accordingly. So suppressing the facts or talking advantage of short memory of public or proceedings as that “it is only a story and not history” as T. Dayananda Francis[10]had done it in the case of “Thomas vanthar” – dance drama held in Krishna Gana Sabha. Therefore, the responsible Indians should take note of the frauds repeated in the different guises, as the theme has been the same.

Would Tiruvalluvar be crucified? The Church would not faithfully record in the film all the frauds committed that have been on the official records; it is going to be partial rehashing the myth with meaningless and basesless imaginary hypotheses; of course, it could pressurise or purchase scholars, historians, politicians etc., with promotion, foreign travel, donation etc., but the truth remains. as they have enough time, it is better think carefully, before they proceed and produce. Already, they watered enough for the media to thrive on such fantacies –

 

ƒ  if Rajini dons Tiruvalluvar, who would be Vasuki –

 

ƒ  yes, Kushubu or Namita would be and they would be dancing with vulgar dress.

 

ƒ  So through Rajini or Kalainjar if they want to crucify Tiruvalluvar, let them crucify!

 

The whole world knows the sin of the Church, massacres of Crusaders, blood split by the holy wars; whether Indians know or not the Goa Inquisition would be remembered. The millions of slaves exported out of India would be remembered; lakhs of Indian women tortured on the fields in Malaya, Mauritius and South africa would be remembered; lakhs of Indian childred orphaned, because of the above and died and killed would be remembered.

Now Kalainjar would be known. We do not know whether Tiruvalluvar would ressurect and curse or Vasuki. He (Kalainjar) has asserted earlier that as he has / had three wives, he would understand women better. So let us see, whether he would understand Vasuki.

 

VEDAPRAKASH

07-07-2008


[1] The news item published under the caption, “We”ll Sweep Polls: CM,” Courtesy: Deccan Chronicle 3 July 2008[2] Ishwar Sharan has been the author of “The Myth of St. Thomas and Mylapore Shiva temple“, and the entire book and other details can be accessed from: www.hamsa.org[3] http://www.llumina.com/store/fortynamesofjesus.htm[4]S. Rajamanickam in a paper presented in a Tirukkural conference, he refuted Deivanayagam’s hypothesis that Tirukkural was a Christian book, Tiruvalluvar Christian etc. It s published in the “Conference Malar” editor by N. Subbu Reddy.

[5] Courtesy:Deccan Chronicle 4 July 2008  

[6] Kamatchi Srinivasan of Madurai Kamaraj University has also extensively refuted his baseless interpretation questioning his understanding of Tirukkural etc in 1979 itself.

Kamatchi Viswanathan already brought out a book “Trukkuralum Viviliyamum” criticizing Deivanayagam in 1979 itself. She has recorded:

M. Deivanayagam and the others who belonged to him (the group) give meanings to many couplets in such a way that they have been totally different from that of other commentators[1]…………………….”A doubt arises after reading the books of M. Deivanayagam as to not only whether he has understood the Tirukkural properly, but alsoto what extent he has leaerned about the Christian religious history[2]……………”Dr. S. Rajamanickam S. J, another Christian Tamil scholar in his paper, “Tirukkuralil Christtavam” has refuted the works of M. Deivanayagam.”[3]


[1] Matchi Srinivasan, Kural Kurum samayam, Tirukkural Chair Publication No. 7, MaduraiKamaraj University, Madurai – 625 021, 1979, p.215.

[2] Ibid, p.216.

[3] Ibid, p.217.N. Subbu Reddiyar (Ed.), Tirukkural Karuttharangam Malar, 1974, pp.87-92.

[7] Again, in 1987, the senior Tamil scholar and Saiva Siddhanta exponent Sri. Arunai Vadivelu Mudaliar has exposed Deivanayagam on many accounts – lack of Tamil language, grammar, syntax, understanding, interpretation etc. in his book, Viviliyam-Tirukkural-Saiva Siddhantam-Maruppu Nul (Bible, Tirukkural, Saiva Siddhanta – A Refutation) published by Mayiladurai Adhinam.

[8] Roberto de Nobili “raped” him like anything getting all wok done though him.

[9] Bathalomeo Ziegenbalg had done it with Ganapathy Upadhyaya.

[10] I went to Krishna Gana Sabha on that day (in 1989 immediately after the publication of my book. as I sent copies to all including him, he must have chosen the Krishna Gana Sabha), T. Dayananda Francis allowed me to watch the drama and during the interval, he announced that it was only a drama for entertainment and not based on any history or authentic.