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Is Sabarimala for  the devotees or for dirty women like Rehana Fathima Pyarijaan Sulaiman and journo trekkers, atheists etc? [1]

October 24, 2018

Is Sabarimala for  the devotees or for dirty women like Rehana Fathima Pyarijaan Sulaiman and journo trekkers, atheists etc? [1]

, Sabarimala -the Five judges

The split judgment of Sabarimala and the haste politics of Communists leading to complications: The Supreme Court has announced that women of all ages could enter Sabarimala Iyyappan Temple in its judgment delivered on September 28, 2018. It has been a split judgment, as one of the five judges differed with the others[1]. Evidently, the Supreme Court or the four judges have not gone into the details of the temple, its tradition and connected rituals. Also, they have not considered the other provisions of the Constitution, where, various religious sects and denominations could maintain their own temples, belief system etc., without affecting others. That Sabarimala temple and devotees have been maintaining their position for hundreds of years has been proven by its existence and continuing traditions. As this has been the condition, the scene created, definitely by few, has been condemnable, as Sabarimala is not a place of picnic, activism or politics.Therefore, the few women, that too, non-Hindus, journalists and TV crew to go there and create problem, affecting the devotees, who have been going there with the vow, proves the pre-planned attack on the Sabarimala devotees, under the guise of law. Evidently, the Kerala government, now headed by the Communists have stated exploiting it as an opportunity to disturb and wound the sentiments of the devotees, by applying the police force, as evident from the happenings.

, Sabarimala -Ayyappa Saranam

Sabarimala movement has given space for all: Sabarimala movement, in the sense, that it gives equality to all without any discrimination, particularly for men, has been grown phenomenally, attracting many. Of late, rich people, actors and others started going there. Generally, poor people, labourers, workers, auto drivers and others used to go there, as they used to start their nonbu / penance during Kartigai month. Thus, it is very much similar to Varkari movement that drew lakhs of devotees spontaneously[2]. During their vow period, they do not take non-veg food, drink, smoke etc., and thus, they follow “brahmacharya” as a “kannisami” viz. young male devotee of virtues. They feel pride, as all others call them as “Sami” with respect. Of course, young and old women going there has been a regular feature and none took it differently……Thus, all have been going on well for so many years, but, in 2018, it has become a big issue. Ironically, instead of real woman-devotees, as they respected the tradition and do not want to violate, in spite of the judgment, few non-Hindu women, that too, journalists tried to enter with police force affecting the sentiments of crores of Hindus. How many of Indians would have red 411 pages judgments is also not known.

, Sabarimala -Indu Malhothra

It is not dissent judgement, but, people’s judgment: The Judge, Indu Malhothra, has summarized her order as follows: “The summary of the aforesaid analysis is as follows:

 

(i) The Writ Petition does not deserve to be entertained for want of standing. The grievances raised are non-justiciable at the behest of the Petitioners and Intervenors involved herein.

 

(ii) The equality doctrine enshrined under Article 14 does not override the Fundamental Right guaranteed by Article 25 to every individual to freely profess, practise and propagate their faith, in accordance with the tenets of their religion.

 

(iii) Constitutional Morality in a secular polity would imply the harmonisation of the Fundamental Rights, which include the right of every individual, religious denomination, or sect, to practise their faith and belief in accordance with the tenets of their religion, irrespective of whether the practise is rational or logical.

 

(iv) The Respondents and the Intervenors have made out a plausible case that the Ayyappans or worshippers of the Sabarimala Temple satisfy the requirements of being a religious denomination, or sect thereof, which is entitled to the protection provided by Article 26. This is a mixed question of fact and law which ought to be decided before a competent court of civil jurisdiction.

 

(v) The limited restriction on the entry of women during the notified age group does not fall within the purview of Article 17 of the Constitution.

 

(vi) Rule 3(b) of the 1965 Rules is not ultra vires Section 3 of the 1965 Act, since the proviso carves out an exception in the case of public worship in a temple for the benefit of any religious denomination or sect thereof, to manage their affairs in matters of religion.

 In light of the aforesaid discussion and analysis, the Writ Petition cannot be entertained on the grounds enumerated hereinabove. It is ordered accordingly”, thus, passed the judgment. Hence, it is not any dissent judgment, but, people’s judgment and perhaps, God’s judgment!

, Sabarimala -Atheist CM

With obvious politicization of the issue, the Temple authorities and the Kerala government have decided not to appeal against or file revision petition. Contrary, the Hindus of Kerala have started their protests in a large scale in peaceful manner. Thousands of women came on the roads and marched towards Government offices with the pictures of Ayyappa and banners questioning the judgment that affects their devotion and tradition. On 03-10-2018 [Wednesday], more than 20,000 devotees marshalled through social media, mostly women, held a protest march in Pandalam, headquarters of an erstwhile royal family that once governed the temple. The leading Malayalam daily, Malayala Manorama, carried a front-page picture of the march but Mathrubhumi came under attack for carrying a report on an inside page and without a picture. About the downplying of this event the media groups themselves were divided, because of the government pressure[3]. The entry of Nair Service Society (NSS), a socio-culture organisation of the influential upper-caste community has only added steam to the protests. The NSS also happens to be the first to decide on filing a review petition against the judgement[4]. As usual, the ruling Communist and Congress parties started accusing BJP, RSS and other right wing organizations for such upsurge, but, the fact has been different, as the Left wing media groups have been heavily anti-Hindu affecting the sentiments. Thus, ironically, the few women Mohammedan, Christian and secular categories came and started the communalization of the issue. These have been the credentials and back ground of the women who started creating problem.

, Sabarimala -libi jurno

L. S. Libi atheist posing as a devotee with dress!: The NDTV reported that[5]C.S. Libi, Christian posed as a Hindu, was among the first to attempt the trek to the shrine on the day the temple gates were to open. Days before her visit, she had posted her plan on Facebook. The protesters had apparently seen her post and decided to block her the moment she reached a bus stand in Pathanamthitta, 65 km from the temple. The police had shielded her from a group of protesters who had surrounded her at the bus stop. They threatened to burn the bus if it drove towards the temple’s base camp, news agency IANS had reported.” But, the event was videographed ny many and she had to return, because of her contradicting answers and encounter she had with women devotees and others at the bus-stand[6]. Another woman, Libi CS, was arrested at a bus stop by worshipers who accused her of wearing jeans[7]. “This is how a lady should go to the temple.” She claims to have observed penance, but if you look at the pearls of the Sabarimala necklace, it is very clear that she has worn it today. “Yesterday or yesterday, it is not acceptable to us and she will not be allowed to go there,” said a group of angry female protesters. Libi CS, a journalist, posted on Facebook her plan to visit Sabarimala Temple. The protesters apparently saw her post and decided to block her as soon as she arrived at a bus station in Pathanamthitta, 65 meters from the temple. “Friends, we are leaving all four for Sabarimala today, which includes atheists like me and two devotees,” said Libi’s Facebook message[8].

© Vedaprakash

23-10-2018

, Sabarimala -libi jurno-2

[1] IN THE SUPREME COURT OF INDIA, CIVIL ORIGINAL JURISDICTION, WRIT PETITION (CIVIL) NO. 373 OF 2006,   Indian Young Lawyers Association   …Petitioner(s)  & Ors.  VERSUS The State of Kerala & Ors.

https://indiankanoon.org/docfragment/163639357/?formInput=sabarimala%20%20sortby%3A%20mostrecent

[2] Varkari or Warkari(meaning “a pilgrim”) is a sampradaya (religious movement) within the bhakti spiritual tradition of Vaishnavism part of Hinduism, geographically associated with the Indian state of Maharashtra. Varkaris worship Vitthal (also known as Vithoba), the presiding deity of Pandharpur, regarded as a form of Krishna. Saints and gurus of the bhakti movement associated with the Varkaris include Jñāneśvar, Namdev, Chokhamela, Eknath, and Tukaram, all of whom are accorded the title of Sant.The Varkari movement includes the worship Vithoba and a duty-based approach towards life emphasising moral behavior and strict avoidance of alcohol and tobacco, the adoption of a strict lacto-vegetarian diet and fasting on Ekadashi day (twice a month), self-restraint (brahmacharya) during student life, equality and humanity for all rejecting discrimination based on the caste system or wealth, the reading of Hindu texts, the recitation of the Haripath every day and the regular practice of bhajan and kirtan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varkari

[3] The Telegraph, Sabarimala pressure on Kerala media, By K.M. Rakesh in Bangalore, Published 8.10.18, 3:37 AMUpdated 8.10.18, 5:25 AM.

[4] https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/sabarimala-pressure-on-kerala-media/cid/1671280

[5] NDTV, The Women Who Were Turned Away From Making History At Sabarimala, Edited by Revathi Hariharan | Updated: October 22, 2018 16:48 IST.

[6] https://www.ndtv.com/kerala-news/the-women-who-stopped-short-of-making-history-at-sabarimala-1935635

[7] Naaju.com, Woman and family giving up Sabarimala trek scared to say no cops to temple, October 17, 2018.

[8] https://naaju.com/us/woman-and-family-giving-up-sabarimala-trek-scared-to-say-no-cops-to-temple/ The Hindu also reported it on 18-10-2018.

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The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (2)

January 12, 2018

The World Atheist Conference 2018 conducted on January 5th to 7th 2018 at Trichy (2)

WAC, Trichy - second day, paper presenters

The First Day paper reading session (05-01-2018): The WAC organizers kept the paper reading session inside and the public meetings open. The first day (05-01-2018) paper reading proceedings were held at Periyar Maniammai University campus, Vallam. On the theme, “Atheism – Hope for Humanity”, Three parallel sessions were held, where, 38 delegates participated and presented 28 papers. Of which 13 were taken for discussion.

WAC, Trichy - paper presenter-bald, looks north Indian

In first session, was conducted with Balwinder Barnala, Tarkkaasila Sangha, as chair-person and , Dr Samarasam, Vijyawada Atheist Centre, as moderator.

Kadesh Godherao, Maharastra Antastrata Nirmulam Samiti, read a paper on the topic, “Atheism is for the Progress of Humanity”.

Kumanarajan, editor of “Tamil Lemuria”, Mumbai presented a paper on “Threats of religious fundamentalism, Problems and Solutions.”

WAC, Trichy - paper presenter-gold-spec-nald-white

In the second session was chaired by Prof Ilakkuvan, Director, Periyar Centre, USA and P. Sabasiva Rao, Treasurer, Telengana-Hyderabad Manava Vikasha Vedika, moderated.

Prof Sam George, American College, spoke on, “Atheism – Way of Life.” M. Govindasamy, Malaysia Dravidar Sangam, Kulalampur spoke on, “Dravidian Movement in Malaysia”.

Dr R. Gauthaman, Periyar Medical Mission, spoke on “Medicine and Atheism.”

However, most of the papers were of generalized, rehashing the already known details and targeting Hindu religion for superstition and so on. Emphasis was given for in between Peiyar and Dravidian movement. The atheist arguments had been against ontological, teleological, cosmological points, but, they could not put forward any new points. The age-old theist-atheist arguments on these lines have been too well-known to be repeated here.

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- looks Tamilian, with coat

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WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- looks Tamilian, with white coat.

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WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- old man, spec, bald, white

Vijayan

WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- old man, spec, bald

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WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- old man, spec, grey hair

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WAC, Trichy - paper presenters- Sikh

Balwinder Barnala

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DK opposing Rajini-

Atheism versus Spirituality – debate started: Speakers propagating atheist philosophy slammed religious beliefs, especially in Hinduism, at the World Atheist Conference here on Friday (05-01-2018). The concept of spiritual politics espoused by superstar Rajinikanth also came in for sharp criticism. It is not known as to why Rajni’s politics should be attacked and criticized in the “World Atheist Conference”. Evidently, as Trichy has been strong base of Rajini’s fans and his political ambitions would erode the Dravidian polity and as well as the prospects of DMK, the WAC has been exploited to attack Rajini politics.  Though Rajini’s concept was much debated over the past few days, some speakers found it nascent and lacking clarity. However, Dravida Kazhagam leader K. Veeramani aid that people propagating ideology of spiritual politics would be exposed sooner than later. Speaking on the sidelines of the conference, he said spiritual politics was nothing but a tool that might be used to deceive people. Politics was in no way related to spirituality. Spiritual politics stressed on the existence of spirit which was called ‘Atma’. The aim of the conference was to counter the very existence of spirit through philosophical arguments. Those trying to mislead people in the name of spirit would be exposed soon, he said. Ironically, even the atheist religions like Jainism and Buddhism believed “Atma”, rebirth, etc.

WAC, Trichy, Kanimozhi

During public session, Rajinikantha’s “Spiritual Politics” attacked: Lakshman Tamil from Periyar International, USA said that those thinking about starting a political party in the state could not ignore Periyar or Dravidian movement for their brand value. He said that one could become popular in the state by invoking the name of Periyar. Lakshman recalled how his father had told him to be honest also when he expressed his wish to become an atheist like Thanthai periyar. Periyar had set high standards to be an atheist, he said. aking a jibe at Rajini, Dravidian Tamil Federation general secretary Suba Veerapandian said that a person had recently visited Gopalapuram (the residence of DMK leader M Karunanidhi) to seek his blessings[1]. But little did he know that he could only get rationalist lessons from the leader and not his blessings[2]. Rationalists and atheists had been criticising the actor for giving his political move a religious colour. Though Rajinikanth had come out in the open with a statement clarifying his stand, not many seemed to be convinced.

WAC-3, Times of India

“Dravidian philosophy is the only alternative to Hindutva”: Untouchability is the worst tyranny any part of the world has ever seen. So is the caste system. And these are practiced in the name of God, said Dravida Kazhagam leader K Veeramani here on Friday (05-01-2018). Speaking at the World Atheism Conference 2018 in Trichy, Veeramani said India is land of atheism, not temples. Atheism is not just the denial of religion, but denial of all superstitions associated with it too. He said atheism dated back to 1500 CE in our country. Lakshman Tamil, Periyar International, USA, said caste system is the bane of India and society cannot progress as long as this Vedic system exists. Hinduism cannot claim that it is all-encompassing until it disowns the Vedas, he said. Buddhism and Jainism moved away from people and lost their relevance[3]. The Dravidar Kazhagam has created a populous atheist movement and it is the true Shramana movement of the modern time in terms of the core philosophy of atheism, he said. Terming Periyar’s atheism the most relevant, Lakshman Tamil said it is also a populous movement. Its multifaceted nature has also contributed to its popularity. “Dravidian philosophy is the only alternative to Hindutva. People have to choose between Hindutva, which is a Vedic tradition that is based on hate and segregates people in the name of caste, and Dravidian philosophy, which preaches self-respect,” said Lakshman Tamil[4].

WAC-3, Times of India- attacking Rajini

2G-Raja spoke on his atheism in Tihar and outside: Former Union telecom minister A Raja started off by thanking the CBI and the CAG for making him popular worldwide in the 2G spectrum case. “Being an atheist since teenage, his belief in atheism strengthened further during his imprisonment in the Tihar jail when he saw prisoners, who included rapists and murderers, making a beeline to offer oil to a figure of Saturn (Shani). Hinduism was used as a tool by upper caste people to keep a majority section poor by denying them education. This is a country where people are divided in terms caste. And this notion is created by religion”, he said. As many as 500 papers on atheism are going to be presented in the conference that is going to last for 3 days.

WAC-3, The Hindu, 06-01-2016

The Second Day paper reading session (06-01-2018): The seconday paper reading session was held in Einstein Auditorium, for which K. Veeramani chaired and  Narendra Naik, President, Indian Federation of Rationalist Associations acted as moderator. Devadoss welcomed the speakers and delegates. Elizabeth O’ Cassey delivered a special lecture.

Thaneswar Sahu, Philosopher professor and President of Odhisha Rationalist Association spoke on “Science, Scientific thinking – A Perspective.”

  1. Raja Kennedy, Rationalist Teachers Forum, spoke on, “Encouraging Scientific temper amomg the children”.
  2. Ramasamy, Professor and Rationalist from Madurai, spoke on “Atheist-Humanist Fighters Periyar and Gora”.

Suvinnila, Vice-President, Rationalist Association gave vote of thanks. Here, also, the speakers had repeated the points. They always tried to take “Science” as weapon against religious beliefs and dub them as “Superstition,” but, they could not tackle the issue of “Scientific superstition,” prevalent exploiting the public under forced propaganda, dubious advertisements and aggressive marketing.

WAc,Kanimozhi speaks

Rationalists attacked, women treated badly by all religions- Kanimozhi: The evening seession was held at Puthur Periyar auditorium, Trichy as a public meeting, in which Kanimozhi, Tirumavalavan, C. Vijayan (Director, Vijayawada Rationalist Centre) spoke. Atheist and rationalists all around the world are under threat, said Rajya Sabha MP K Kanimozhi on the second day of the World Atheist Conference, organised by Dravidar Kazhagam in Trichy on Saturday (06-01-2018)[5]. She hoped the believers or religious minded attending the conference see the “………….true light of Periyar. The people who have congregated here are already atheist. Even then why we have gathered? Why do we have to preach ourselves when we have already converted? But we have to come together to show that we are together and what humanity means to the world ……. said no religion treats women equal to a man in every aspect, be it Hinduism, Christianity or Islam……………All religion says a woman has to obey a man. Women have been denied their rights in every religion. That was the reason Periyar denied all religion…………..There are reformers and feminist around the world who are fighting for women’s rights. I respect all of them, but there is one true feminist in this world and that is Periyar……………Religion is nothing but fear. How much blood has been shed, how many wars have been fought in this world because of religion?…………..God has never killed anyone for their wrongdoing and has remained a spectator. He would never act or react………….There is a threat for all atheists and rationalists around the world. To show our strength, we all should stand united and fight against hatred. Atheism and humanism are the only truths,” she said[6]. The Scroll.in just reproduced that TOI reported[7]. Irony that their correspondents, colunists or reporters could not add more than that TOI published[8].

© Vedaprakash

10-01-2018

WAC-3, Veeramani, Raja, Elizabeth

[1] Times of India, Atheists slam Rajinikanth’s spiritual politics, K Sambath Kumar| TNN | Jan 6, 2018, 08:37 IST

[2] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/atheists-slam-rajinikanths-spiritual-politics/articleshow/62385950.cms

[3] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/madurai/dravidian-philosophy-is-the-only-alternative-to-hindutva/articleshow/62386831.cms

[4] Times of India, ‘Dravidian philosophy is the only alternative to Hindutva’, TNN | Updated: Jan 6, 2018, 00:18 IST.

[5] Times of India, Rationalists under threat all over the world: Kanimozhi, TNN | Jan 7, 2018, 08:25 IST.

[6] https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/rationalists-under-threat-all-over-the-world-kanimozhi/articleshow/62397776.cms

[7] Scroll.in, Atheists and rationalists all over the world are under threat: DMK MP Kanimozhi, by  Scroll Staff, Published 07-01-2018, · 10:49 am

[8] https://scroll.in/latest/864115/atheists-and-rationalists-all-over-the-world-are-under-threat-dmk-mp-kanimozhi

Dr B.R. Ambedkar International Conference 2017 – Quest for Equity  – Reclaiming Social Justice, Revisiting Ambedkar – Interpretation of case laws involving reservation to SCs under the Presidential Order 1950 – Can Christians and Muslims get SC status? (5)

August 4, 2017

 

Dr B.R. Ambedkar International Conference 2017 – Quest for Equity  – Reclaiming Social Justice, Revisiting Ambedkar – Interpretation of case laws involving reservation to SCs under the Presidential Order 1950 – Can Christians and Muslims get SC status? (5)

Soosai vs UOI

What Soosai vs UOI judgment says: Castes of Hindu religion identified on ‘untouchability’ related parameters were already scheduled under the 1936 Order. The validity of the order was considered by the Supreme Court in Writ Petition No. 9596/83 in the case of Soosai Vs The Union of India and Others (AIR 1986 SC 733). In para 7 of the judgment the Court had observed that “Now it cannot be disputed that the Caste system is a feature of the Hindu social structure. It is a social phenomenon peculiar to Hindu society. The Apex Court in para 8 of the judgment thus, observed that, “it is therefore, not possible to say that President acted arbitrarily in the exercise of his judgment in enacting paragraph 3 of the Constitution (Scheduled Castes) Order, 1950.” This is also sustained by the debate in Constituent Assembly which recognised “That the Scheduled Castes were a backward section of the society who were handicapped by the practice of untouchability” and that “This evil practice of untouchability was not recognised by any other religion” i.e. other than Hindu. It is apparent that the Constitution (SC) Order, 1950 relates to castes of Hindu religion. It only relates to the Castes discriminated within the Hindu religious system. The Constitution (SC) Order, 1950 is thus not discriminatory or violative of Articles 14, 15, 16 & 25 of the Constitution nor is it ultra vires of the Constitution as it provides for a special category i.e. the Scheduled Castes who have been given a special status under the Constitution. The Constitution (SC) Order, 1950 is thus neither unconstitutional nor ultra-vires of the Constitution nor it is violative of any fundamental right guaranteed by the Constitution. Here, the Christians never appealed or filed any revision petition against this order, but kept quite. At Vatican level, they had many issues and problems, as the Bishops and Cardinals have been following race or caste hierarchical structure. So far, no Black has been elected for the post of Pope, in spite of their claims.

The Bull of Pope Gregory XV, Bulla Romanae Sedis Antistitis, dated 31 January 1623

Christianity, caste and untouchability [1]: Christianity, caste and untouchability: In spite of the tall claims made by the Christians, the caste, racism, untouchability and other factors have been there in Christianity. The hundreds of denominations in different countries based on theology, practices, tribes etc., are the direct proof. Pope Gregory XV published a bull sanctioning caste regulations in the Christian Churches of India. Even the U. N. Commission of Inquiry (1953) into the racial situation in South Africa reported the Biblical background of inspiration for them to adopt “Apartheid” or “Christian caste system” with untouchability [Genesis. 9.25, Joshua. 9.21, 23 & 27]. Untouchability also finds its way to Bible [Joshua. 9.19]. In Ireland, there are separate streets for Roman Catholics and Protestants, as each group treatsothers “untouchables”. Slavery has been a divine approved system [Levi. 25: 44-46; Timothy. 6.11]. Prasadam offered to Jehovah should not be eaten by others [Exo.12:43]. They should not touch things holy to him or offer sacrifice [Levi. 22:25]. Bible should not be taught to others [Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 5, p.623; Exo.27:33]. They cannot offer incense [Numbers.16: 40]. They should not approach the holy tabernacle i.e, the “Garba Griha” / Sanctum Sanctorum [Numbers 1.51]. The dishonest Christians  suppress everything and try to fool the gullible SCs and STs projecting that their religion saves them. they could not save their own souls of SCs /STs with dubious methods. There are A to Z Churches with denominations (castes) running into more than 3000 depending upon the nation, language, ethnicity, culture, civilization and other factors. The matrimonial columns appearing in the newspapers and periodicals expose their hypocrisy, as the bride / groom are hunted only on the basis of “caste” and not on the “Christ”!  Crores of Rupees flow into India from abroad to convert India to Christianity. World Christian Organizations never hide this plan. After the Neogi Commission Report, they have only changed their tactics in routing the money. Political pressure at national and international levels is applied through different channels to pump money in. only 30-40% is actually spent under the guise of charity, service, and liberation etc., whereas, 60-70% is adjusted in their manipulated accounts duly certified. They have formed their own high castes and they do not want to share profits with the new converts. They treat them just as “natives” counting numbers and sending statistical figures to parent organizations.

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Theologies floated to suppress the facts: Thus, the discrimination persists and percolates to bottom reaching new complications and crating new social tensions. Therefore, to divert the issue, as decided by the World Council of Churches and other organizations, they set up different “research groups” to shift the blame to Hinduism and escape. After politicizing, they have tried to internationalize the issue. Whoever Indian writer, journalist or “scholar”, who supports this theory, is received aboard usually USA or Germany and taken care of.  “Dalit Theology” is the superior theology masqueraded in mere theoretical egalitarianism to fool “Dalits” projecting Jesus as the Super Star Saviour and Christianity to solve all their social problems, suppressing all cold facts, historical truths and the past tract record of Christianity. “Liberation Theology” is nothing but “Christian Communism” with God offered in different garb mainly advocating violence. It advocates violence, terrorism and anti-national activities in a country where it is preached. After the death of Communism and exposure of their deadly acts in Latin American countries, they have turned their attention to “Dalit Theology”.

Char with the speakers

Pope Gregory XV issued a Bull authorizing Caste[2]: The Pope and the Church have been playing dual roles  as for as India is concerned. Definitely, what the Pope said and what has been reported by Associated Press differs, as AP has tried to interpret the Pope, as if he has recommended that “Christians must reject divisions based on caste” (The Hindu Nov.18, p.12). The Pope Gregory XV (1621-23) has definitely accepted the caste. The Bull of Pope Gregory XV, “Bulla Romanae Sedis Antistitis”, dated 31 January 1623, accedes to the requests of the missionaries to accommodate themselves to certain caste practices and usages of the new converts. Why not then the present Pope annul the Papal Bull issued, instead of recollecting what he had said in 1986. In fact, after his visit, there had been so many “caste problems and issues” within the Indian Church. The “Dalit Christian problem” arose phenomenally. The Supreme Court itself pronounced that if the Church wants reservation based on untouchability and caste, such factors of existence in Christianity should be proven (Soosai vs UOI – AIR 1986). Then, started the >research of Athony Raj, SJ with funds to prove that untouchability and Caste system were there in Christianity and practiced even today.

Dalit Christians demand SC status Indian Express cutting

Whether Muslims can get SC status by converting back to Hindu religion?: A Muslim from audience asked, “I wanted to convert back to Hindu religion and whether I could get SC status, as the Supreme Court pronounced in some cases, that a converted SC-Christian could get back, SC-status, when their SC members accepted him back as his member again. In the same way, if a SC-Muslim wanted to convert back to Hindu religion, whether he could get back SC-status”. Actually, these cases pertain to election candidates, where Christians converts contested elections at reserved constituencies, claiming that they were SCs. When, this was challenged at the courts, the Christians got certificates to the effect that they were Hindu SCs. So the courts pronounced that, as candidate converted back to Hindu religion and got a certificate, documentary evidence to that effect, he was considered as “Hindu”. It is not known as to how the present-day Muslims, who want to claim back their SC-status by converting back, would prove their caste identity.  Ironically, most of them or some of them would also claim that they were not the converted categories from India, but, directly descended from the forefathers, who were of Arabic tribal origins [Ansaris, Mujahideen, and others]. If they were really interested in converting back, why then criticize “Gharwapasi”?

KVR with the speakers

Origin of Caste – the Chairman spoke and wound up the session: The second paper was presented by Bhup Singh Gaur on the approach of Harijans / SCs by Gandhi and Ambedkar. He interpreted that both leaders worked for the upliftment and welfare of the people in their own way. He pointed out that Amedkar was the only leader who attended all the three RTCs and consistently fighting for the rights of Depressed Castes. The third paper, “Dalit – A legal Perspective” was presented by S. Balakrishna Hedge.  His paper was almost answering the issue raised by Tanweer Fazal. Finally, the chair of Prof Chandrama Kanagali presented her paper about the origin of caste in India. She pointed out that the origins of the term ‘caste’ are attributed to the Spanish and Portuguese casta, which, according to the John Minsheu‘s Spanish dictionary (1599), means “race, lineage, or breed”. When the Spanish colonized the New World, they used the word to mean a “clan or lineage.” However, it was the Portuguese who employed casta in the primary modern sense when they applied it to the thousands of endogamous, hereditary Indian social groups they encountered upon their arrival in India in 1498. The use of the spelling “caste,” with this latter meaning, is first attested to in English in 1613.

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The word “Dalit” is neither constitutional nor legal: The National Commission for Scheduled Castes has asked the state governments not to use the word ‘Dalit” in official documents, saying the term was “unconstitutional”. The commission has stated that sometimes the word ‘Dalit” is used as a substitute for Scheduled Caste in official documents, sources in State Tribal Department said in Raipur. After consultation with the legal department, the commission said the ‘Dalit” word is neither constitutional nor the word has been mentioned in the current laws. Rather ‘Scheduled Caste” is the appropriate and notified word as per the Article 341 of the Constitution, it said in a letter sent to all states. The writers and researchers do not care even about this and continue to mention the word for ulterior motive.

© Vedaprakash

04-08-2017

[1] This I wrote in 2007. https://groups.google.com/forum/ – !topic/talk.politics.misc/ZoUU1QBaBAI

[2] My letter to “The Hindu” wriiten in 2003. http://hindooraashtrcom.fatcow.com/pdf/Caste-in-Christianity-Papal-Bull.pdf

Politics, Cricket, Share market and Gambling in India

May 12, 2012

Politics, Cricket, Share market and Gambling in India

Vedaprakash

This, I posted in www.indiainrweacts.com and other forums, but missing. In fact, the www.indiainrweacts.com has removed / blacked out all my postings. Now, I started salvaging or taking out from internet, backup and other sources, as the same pattern is found even today in 2012. Actually, today I searched for my article on “Sex, Drugs, and Cricket” the nexus etc., but I came across this. Therefore, I am posting in www.vedaprakash.wordpress.com withlout any changes.

 

Indian politics, cricket and gambling: Now a new ugly face of Indian politics having nexus with gambling and underworld is revealed in the recent betting on political parties and the PMs. The close links of Sharad Pawar with cricket mafia and sugar dons and that of Manmohan Singh with bookies and financial gamblers are coming out. The heavy investment in shares and manipulation of Indian economy and the sudden discussion about black money investment in Swiss banks, the BJP’s accusation and the Congress denial etc., are to be understood in the backdrop. The newspapers and TV-channels have started unfolding the gambling and betting of mafia-bookies and changing their so-called “the most-scientific exit-polls”[1].

Psephologists and bookies: The nexus between so-called psephologists and bookies are exposed in the Indian elections[2]. Psephologist or the professionals engaged in studying the election patterns and deviations. They make use of tools like past election’s facts and figures and public opinion polls to arrive at a conclusion. Their scope of job mainly encompasses analysis of aspects like trends in voting, swings in votes; number of votes polled or percentage of total votes polled translating into the number of seats in the government. They also try to find out the answers of questions like how much of percent swing in the votes may lead to change in the government. Hence Psephologists are expected to play a constructive role in any democratic set up, but in India, they are aiding and abetting with the punters, gamblers, underworld dons and spoiling the democracy through the anti-Indian media.

The myth of psephology in the “five-phased elections”: The five-phased polls spreading over a month from April 14 to May 13 2009 has been a political farce, cleverly manipulated by the Congress and its slave Election Commission[3]. When Gopalswamy found, he was not only kicked out immediately, but replaced with three “chamchas” under the guise of secularism. What is the right margin of error to employ?

The experts discuss about errors in the sampling as follows: The most common approach is to use a margin such that in 19 polls out of 20, the gap between the real figure and the poll estimate will be smaller than the sampling error. If the poll samples 1000 people, its sampling error will be 3 per cent either way. With a sample of 2000, the sampling error falls to plus or minus 2.2 per cent. The sampling error is a factor when comparing two polls is larger still, since both polls have their margins of error. Changes in polls from one week to another are even more error-prone than the polls themselves., thus when the polls are phased with gaps and such periods are subjected to heavy propagandas leashed out through media and the ruling Congress misusing the official machineries, where is the political democracy or democratic polity in India?

Gamblers are powerful than voters in choosing PM or the government of their choice: The Indians have been consistently voting to BJP and Congress for the last five general elections. It has been the Congress aiding and abetting with other parties preventing BJP to rule. They used the “dummies” — V. P. Singh, Deve Gowda, I. K. Gujaral. Chandrasekhar and so on and therefore, the lust for becoming a PM has been haunting and daunting the small players or great spoilers and they start bargains with such “devil” sitting in their minds. They want to a PM just for a day, a week, a month or a year — that is all. They are not worried about the so-called ideologies, principles, and
people. Such political lust is varied only in gradation.

Note the media’s discussion on the choice of PMs:

1.  First, they discussed about the powerful and weak PMs.

2.  Instead of “two”, they tried to pit more against the “two”.

3.  The comparison was stretched from “two” to “three” to “four”.

4.  Ultimately, the discussion has been stooped down to the level of who is the worst, horrible and nasty PM.

The trend of elections from 1984 to 2009: In 1984, Advani emerged as PM and the American papers too projected him so. But unfortunately, Indira Gandhi was assassinated and the Congress swept the pools with the Rajiv Gandhi becoming a PM. However, Rajiv was plagued with corruption and thus, in 1989 V. P., Singh and Chandrasekhar were made PMs. However, after the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi in 1991, P. V. Narasinha Rao became PM.

Year

BJP

Congress

Others

PM

1984 8th)

2

403

138

Rajiv Gandhi
1989 (9th)

85

197

261

V. P. Singh
Chandrasekhar
1991 (10th)

120

232

161

P. V. Narasimha Rao
1996 (11th)

161

140

161

A. B. Vajpayee (13 days)

Deva Gowda (18 months)

I. K. Gujaral

1998 (12th)

161

140

242

A. B. Vajpayee (13 months)
1999 (13th)

182

141

220

A. B. Vajpayee (298)
2004 (14th)

138

145

260

Manmohan Singh (335)


The entering of Sonia Gandhi into politics and the rise of BJP coincided and the anti-Congress politicians tried to support BJP. However, the rise of BJP during the period 1991 to 1998 cannot be denied. Only fear of the rise of BJP started the “others” accusing BJP as “communal”, in such ploy, the Congress happily joined without any shame, because, other than Congress, there cannot be any other most-communal party in India, perhaps only next to IUML, MIM, Kerala Congress etc. However, using such secular- communal card, they have been trying to keep BJP out.

Keeping BJP out is anti-Indian undemocratic polity[4]: Any impartial observer, analyst and even common Indian can notice, why all other parties have been ganged up against BJP preventing it from rule? When their number of MPs have been increasing (2 to 181), their period of reign has been increasing (13 days to 13 months to five years), popularity increasing and almost all other parties have aligned with BJP in the pre-poll and post-poll alliances, how other political parties could isolate BJP as communal and they are secular? There is totally wrong in such propaganda being carried out. However, it is stranger to note that BJP has not been pointing out such lacuna, when opportunity came recently in the media many times. In the speeches of Divijaya Singh, Praful Patel, Kapil Sibal, Niteshkumar and others, the point was clearly brought out, but the BJP has failed to take it.

Note: Here, it is not that the “others” are becoming majority to rule India, as they have no common ideologies, but in fact, mostly, they have been the communal, secessionist, anti-National[5], communist and other forces acting against India and Indian interests. Therefore, it is unfortunate that Congress has been supporting such forces and that is why the Communists are emboldened to get ambition of rule India![6].

1% cannot be the difference between Advani and Manmohan: Definitely, when Advani was emerging a powerful PM, the Congress and the media started manipulation. Now the gamblers have joined after psephologists. CNN-IBN psephologist was making blunder after blunder by giving 16% to Advani, 15% to Manmohan etc., as “popular / acceptable PM”. It is not known how the difference could be only one percent. As the groups start realigning and just expecting the real figures, definitely, they are afraid and launched their attack through gamblers picked up by the media and hence the nexus is proved beyond doubt.

If the gamblers, bookies and brokers are powerful than voters, than such politicians could be hanged instead of appreciated as “economic experts” and so on. That behind Manmohan Singh such a devil, monster and evil forces are acting to spoil Indians, then Indians should hang such monsters, instead of placing them on the ruling thrones. In satta market, UPA return near certain[7]: With just a few hours left for declaration of the final results of the 15th Lok Sabha elections, punters in the capital are still giving an edge to the ruling Congress-led UPA government, with a tally of 220 seats, and are confident it will form the next government with a comfortable majority.  Congress improved its tally among bettors who are now giving it 162 seats, against an earlier estimate of 142 during the fourth phase. The rate punters are offering for Congress is 30 paise, which has come down from 63 paise on offer earlier. For UPA government to make a comeback, the punters are offering 32 paise.

This means that for every one rupee you bet on Congress, you stand to earn Rs 1.30, while for UPA government, one stands to win Rs 1.32,” said a punter.

BJP-led NDA is far behind in the game of odds”, you stand to make Rs 3.10 paise if BJP returns 145 seats, while for NDA forming a government, the rates offered are Rs 1.50, which means you gain Rs 2.50 on ever rupee you bet,” he added.

The rates are likely to see a violent swing on the morning of May 16, as the counting begins. “We will be taking bets on parties and candidate till 10am and will close the game after that,” added a source. Insiders also betting on factors like Bihar CM Nitish Kumar and AIADMK supremo J Jayalalithaa being wooed by the Congress. Speculation soared after Nitish’s demand for special status to Bihar on Friday. Punters who were earlier wagering on Congress to take Delhi 6-1, are now saying it is likely to sweep the polls. Expectedly, on Friday the odds against West Delhi’s BJP candidate Jagdish Mukhi climbed to 80 paise, from 35 paise a few days ago. An amount of Rs 1,200 crore is at stake, but a large amount has also been diverted to the Indian Premier League, the punter added.

Satta market: Manmohan still tops list of PM hopefuls[8]: With only two days remaining for the Lok Sabha results, there is heavy betting on the fate of political parties and individual candidates PM Manmohan Singh addresses a press conference in Ludhiana. “Bets worth several thousand crore rupees have already been laid so far, and the tempo is likely to go up in the next couple of days. Mumbai has created a record of sorts with a punter — who is in the real estate business — betting as much as Rs 30 crore on different candidates, parties and their combinations,” a leading bookie told TOI on Wednesday.

  • Manmohan Singh continues to be the hot favourite for prime ministership
    with the bhav (odds) on him being 60 paise. This means that every rupee bet on Singh will fetch the bettor Rs 1.60 if he is indeed re-elected PM. If the bookies’ odds are any indication, L K Advani, who is leading the NDA alliance, has very little chance of becoming PM.
  • The bhav on him is Rs 2.50.
  • In fact, some bookies are also offering bhav of Rs 6 on his quitting politics before May 31.
  • NCP head honcho Sharad Pawar is an extremely dark horse (unfancied contender in betting parlance) with the bhav on his becoming PM being Rs 50.
  • The Congress-led UPA is backed to secure 151 seats at even bhav, meaning every rupee bet fetches an extra in return.
  • For the BJP-led NDA, it is even odds for the party winning 122 seats.
  • There is speculation that Lalu Prasad, Ram Vilas Paswan and Mulayam Singh Yadav may face surprise defeats, “the bhav on such upsets is Rs 3, Rs 1.50 and Rs 1.40 respectively.
  • The AIADMK, led by J.Jayalalithaa, is commanding even bhav for 25-plus seats.
  • Even bhav is also on offer for the CPM securing 35 seats.

Satta Bazaar (satta market) works with IPL Cricket and Elections in India: It is unfortunate that Indian cricket is now a big place for sutta market. Here is the details about how it works in India. According to economic times the satta bazaar estimates that at least Rs 20,000 cr will be wagered on the IPL’s 59 matches over a period of 44
days. People of India are wasting their time to watch all long matches of IPL and helps indirectly to satorias to make big money out of it.

How it works- suppose before the cricket match between A and B, you think that B will win the match (B is known as weaker team). Most of other people guess that team A will win. After balencing of demand and supply, suppose for team A odds is 100:25 and for team B, odds is 100:400. If team B wins you will get 400 Rs without spending your 100 Rs. (you have to first deposit 100 Rs, you will get 400+100= 500 Rs). I

f team A wins you have to loose 100 Rs (you will get nothing). If team A wins, the people who have bet on A will get 25 Rs without spending 100 Rs. It is well known that the practice of satta bazar is illegal in India. I would say, stay away from it, otherwise you will sure loose your money and time. Now, you just replace A and B with Congress and BJP, the secret is out!

The Indians voting for BJP are not fools: Definitely, the Indians voting for BJP are not fools, as they want BJP to come to power keeping the powerful India in mind. Therefore, BJP should convince other Indians, who have not been voting for BJP that they are really for India by action. If they get any opportunity, they should prove by their action that they are for the Indians and prepared to make India a powerful nation with economic prosperity and self-sufficiency.

Vedaprakash

16-05-2009


[1] The unblushing psephologists projected BJP as the largest single party / alliance first and then changed tCongress / UPA. Similarly, first they projected that Jayalalitha was getting more seats, but now they say that DMK is going to sweep Tamilnadu!

[2] As 65.7% of residents kept their date with the ballot, psephologists and bookies were heard giving Congress candidate Pawan Kumar Bansal the third tenure in a row. Times of India dated 14-05-2009:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Chandigarh/Voters-set-record/artic…

[3] Vedaprakash, EC becomes slave of Sonia Maino!, see www.indianinteracts.com etc.

[4] Vedaprakash, Keeping BJP out: Is it political democracy?, see www.indianinteracts.com etc.

[5] Vedaprakash, Maoim, the facade of anti-Indian forces: A critical analysis of the “left, centre and right”, see www.indianinteracts.com etc.

[6] Vedaprakash, The Christian-Marxist nexus to install a Communist Government in India, see www.indianinteracts.com etc.

[7] Rahul Tripathi, In satta market, UPA return near certain ,16 May 2009, 0424 hrs IST, TNN ; http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/In-satta-market-UPA-return-near-ce…

[8] S Balakrishnan, Satta market: Manmohan still tops list of PM hopefuls ,14 May, 2009, 1131 hrs IST,TNN:Economic Times, May 14, 2009:

http://m.economictimes.com/PDAET/articleshow/4528516.cms