Archive for the ‘Babri historian’ Category

The Indian woman who went to Korea and became the Queen – the Korea-Indian connection – Do the pro-Tamil groups want to communalize it? [3]

May 24, 2018

The Indian woman who went to Korea and became the Queen – the Korea-Indian connection – Do the pro-Tamil groups want to communalize it? [3]

 Prof Nagarahan - korea - India

The claims of V. Nagarajan and Antartica Tamizhan: Nagarajan’s paper continues, “The materials gathered from multiple sources which includes intentional and unintentional resources related to the first century CE. Reveals that there was no kingdom by name Ayodhya in north India.  Further the cartographic maps particularly the Greek cartography highlighting the Eastern Hemisphere clearly showed the existence of Ay kingdom in south India and not in north India.

http://worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_100bc.jpg

http://worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_050bc.jpg

http://worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_001ad.jpg

http://worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_050ad.jpg

http://worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_100ad.jpg

http://worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_200ad.jpg

http://worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_300ad.jpg

http://worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_400ad.jpg

The visual pattern clearly shows the evolution of Gaya kingdom in Korean peninsula over a period from BCE 100 to 400 CE.  The maps also clearly indicate the change in Tamilnadu all the kingdoms including the Ay kingdom were replaced by the Kalabras.  The presence of Ay and Kongu in Tamilnadu when the Gaya kingdom emerged will help the researchers to formulate a hypothesis to establish the Korean Queen Indian princess connection. The present paper goes to prove that historizing  the legend may lead to a tenable hypothesis that the princess be from south India particularly from Pandiya kingdom than from the Ayodhya kingdom”. Then, he concluded with, “The present paper further points out the direction for future research initiatives by proposing a new paradigm with new hypotheses, methodologies and new models”. Ironically, all these narratives are available in “Mintamil” website, where  one “Antartica Tamilan” has posted in Tamil. Though, we do not know whether Nagarajan has copied from “Antartica Tamilan” or both are one and the same person, it is evident that the “research” has been biased, preconceived and concocted much against the research methodology.

Korea Queen - tamilachi ruled

The aggressive U-tube propaganda on “Sembavala Rani”: As pointed out, the same stuff is converted into U-tube with photos and circulated. Particularly, they chose to praise heavily Kannan and Orissa Balu for the excellent, marvellous and extraordinary discover made[1]. Suggestuve narrative,  prompting description and story-telling pattern expose the propagandist nature. Particularly, these videos have been with same photographs, same narratives with male and female voices[2]. “Coral Shree” consolidated all stuff available in “Mintamil” in another video[3]. She claims that she has only discovered the tortoise route, similar jewelry worn by Tamil and Korean women, the fish symbol, “Sembavalam” and so on. Thus, it is evident that these have been “stage managed” and aimed at propaganda and self-promotion using their expertise. Under the banner of “Tamil Heritage Foundation,” they have brought a book “Historical, archaeological, linguistic, cultural and biological links between Korea and India – Kaya and Pandya” by Kannan and obviously translated in Tamil “Koreavin Tamil Rani”.

Korea Queen -RJB-photo

Provocative captions chosen for U-tubes: Some of the captions chosen for U-tubes have been following:

1.       The Korean goddess was a Tamil woman – the Korean embassy has been in confusion because of plot hatched by India. This has been blatantly anti-Indian nature, as if India tries to confuse the origin of the queen, tracing Ayodhya instead of ancient Tamizhagam.
2.      The goddess of the Korean people was a “Tamlilachi” – a suppressed History of Tamils. Note, here “Tamlilachi” connotes a fanatic and fundamentalist expression for Tamil woman. The “suppression” of Tamil history and such other accusations have been absurd and meaningless. Just claims are not enough, unless, historical evidences are produced.
3.      The “Tamlilachi” who ruled Korea. The fanatic and fundamentalist expression “Tamlilachi” has been mischievous and unhistorical.
4.      The other side of History – The Korean goddess was a Tamil woman [With the background photo of demolition of disputed structure at Ayodhya]. This also proves the pro-Tamil, anti-north, anti-BJP propaganda, smacks any worth of research.
5.      The Tamil Empress / Queen of Korea.

 

Whatever may be the origin, the claim of queen, empress, ruling Korea etc, have been far-fetched and unwarranted.

Korea Queen - Tamil history suppressed

What the videos want to convey?: The tone and tenor of the narratives, the way they are presented with photographs, the expressions used “suppressed history of Tamils,” “hidden truth of Tamil queen,” “the lot of India” etc., shows the intention of the U-tubes in circulation. Generally, in Tamilnadu, the Tamil linguistic chauvinism has been order of the day and such groups could exploit people easily under one or the other pretext.  Though, the concepts of race has been proved myth, they have been continue to stick to such unhistorical race hypotheses and theories exhibiting their attitude of racism and racialism. Such ideologists and promoted experts still talk, interpret and write in terms of “Aryan” and “Dravidian” races and so on. The Tamil diaspora, where pro-Tamil, former LTTE associates, radical Tamil activists and such groups have been active with resources, they have been carrying out such propaganda with ulterior motives. At any cost, the “Tamil chauvinism” cannot be boiled, super-heated and turned to “Tamil separatism” with this type of propagandist attitude. So under such circumstances, the videos and related contents with intent, purport and purpose raise many serious questions in the Indian context.

Korea Queen - Indias plan

Researchers cannot be partisan, anti-Indian and separatist activist: Researchers do not accuse each other or present unhistorical narratives with emotional inducement and excitement for any linguistic group with racial tinge. Particularly, Kannan like experts living in Germany, Germany citizen knows very well how racism works in European countries and Tamilnadu. The “Dravidastan” / “Thani-Tamilnadu”claims are made still here in Tamilnadu lon every pretext. Therefore, the narrtives, symbols, photos, used show anti-India propaganda also. Why then these researchers indulge in such activities?  Incidentally, just last month, their associate and partner, Subashini Tremmel[4] indulged in promoting “thomas myth” through a video[5], that has been blatantly unhistorical and supporting church frauds. Former Archbishop was involved with forged research with Achya Paul and the cae went to Madras high court. Though, the case was settled out of court to save the honour of the church and the bishop, it exposed the dubious research, manufacture of forged evidences and fabrication of copper plates. Though, it was pointed out to her, she kept silent. Therefore, definitely, a doubt arises as to what exactly these researchers want to do with Indians and India? As they have been well-resourced, well-placed and well-informed persons, it is unbelievable that they could have involved in such activities.  As few suggestions are added to conclude:

Suro and Heo ok

  1. Historical research should be free from bias, prejudice and preconceived ideas.
  2. As “Aryan-Dravian race” hypotheses and theories have been declared unhistorical, such interpretation would not do any good in research.
  3. Indians cannot be divided on the basis of linguistic interpretation, excessive repetition of myth-making without any regard for history, historicity and historical evidences.
  4. “Kumarikkandam” hypothesis cannot be a basis for historiography disregarding historical evidences and chronology.
  5. In SEA, the lengends, myhistory and narratives have been more in Sanksrit [not that with any bias], supported by inscriptioonal evidences.
  6. The pre-Pallava inscriptions of SEA should be an eye-opener for Indian researchers, as their Pallava inscriptions are dated later.
  7. As people of Bengal, Orissa, Andhra and Tamilnadu interacted with the SEA countries, all of their influences could be found, but, without any linguistic bias.
  8. In act, the contacts of Bengal, Orissa, and Andhra have been more than Tamilnadu, however, during the medieval period, the Cholas had indelible impression on many factors.

©Vedaprakash

24-05-2018

Akanda dravidastan

[1] கண்ணன் மற்றும் ஒரிசா பாலு – போன்றோரைக் குறிப்பிட்டு உலா வரும் வீடியோ –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wu5gucJMLs

[2] Inside Tamil, Published on Oct 1, 2017; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3nzzYP4w6c

[3] coral shree, 2ஆம் உலகத்தமிழ் எழுத்தாளர்கள் மாநாடு, Published on Jun 15, 2017; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWJwATMVlag

[4] https://www.facebook.com/subashini.thf

[5] See her Facebook, U-tube etc., in fact, in “Mintamil” her friends have warned about the myth and advised not be part of such frauds. I have sent an e-mail pointing out the facts, though, she replied he first one, she did not reply to my second e-mail.

The Indian woman who went to Korea and became the Queen – the Korea-Indian connection – Was she from Ayodhya or Dravidanadu? [2]

May 24, 2018

The Indian woman who went to Korea and became the Queen – the Korea-Indian connection – Was she from Ayodhya or Dravidanadu? [2]

Stone pagoda brought by Heo Hwang Ok

The Pagoda in front of tomb of Queen Hur Hwang-ok was made with stones brought from Ayodhya[1]: In South Korea, her tomb is located in Kimhae and there is a stone pagoda in front of it. It is said that the pagoda is made of stones that she brought from Ayodhya. Describing how she landed in Gaya when she first met the king, she said that the heavenly lord (Sange Je) appeared in her parents’ dreams and told them to send her to the Korea as the king had not found a queen yet. Legend states that the queen died at the age of 157. During PM Narendra Modi’s visit to South Korea in May last year 2014, the two countries agreed that a bigger monument of the princess will be built in Ayodhya. Recently, during a meeting with the Korean delegation, Uttar Pradesh CM Akhilesh Yadav said that the memorial would be constructed according to the Korean architecture. He asked Kim Ki-jae, President of Central Karak Clan Society, to provide the design of the monument so that the government can proceed.

Fishes in Korea in the entrance of Kim Suro (King - husband of Heo Hwang Ok_s) tombstone.

The linkage between Korea and India from Ancient tines seminar on 06-11-2015 at Chennai[2]: Interesting facts came to light at the day-long International Conference on Cultural Exchange between India and Korea in Antiquity, organized by the Consulate General of Republic of Korea and the International Institute of Tamil Studies at Hotel Crown Plaza, Chennai on 06-11-2015[3]. Evidently, to compensate or satisfy the “Tamil groups,” this “day-long International Conference” was organized. In the Republic of Korea (South Korea), Tamil words resonate in homes. And many of the native speakers do not realise they are using Tamil words. For, these words are a part of the Korean language. Amma and appa — denoting mother and father in the Korean language too — are among the first words Korean children learn. These are among the thousands of Tamil words that are part of the Korean language. This surprising and interesting fact came to light at the day-long International Conference on Cultural Exchange between India and Korea in Antiquity, jointly organised by the Consulate General of Korea and the International Institute of Tamil Studies here on Friday. Jung Nam Kim, president, Korean Society of Tamil Studies, said there were words found both in Korean and Tamil and in both these languages, they meant the same thing and were pronounced the same way.

Korea Puzhou Queen mother Huagyu Xu native place.Tamil newutting

Linguistic connection between Korea and India[4]: Other Tamil words found in Korean with the same meanings are: naal (day), uraam (manure), pull (grass), pudhu (new), sourru (rice) and yerru (plough). There are more – vanakkam in Tamil is Vankkaamtta in Korean. Bambu denoting a snake, in Tamil, is Bambu-baem in Korean. Santhosham (happiness) in Tamil is Shantutham in Korean. Recently, the State government started translation of Tirukurral into Korean. “We have a shared heritage. The tomb of Queen Suriratna, an Indian princess, in Gimhae in Korea is a symbol of our shared heritage. In fact, Chennai has the largest Korean population — 4,000 — in India,” Kyungsoo Kim, Consul General of Republic of Korea, said. Rathina Pugalenthi, a scholar from Viruthachalam near Cuddolore district, said that dance forms such as Korean drum dance and Thappaattam in Tamil Nadu had at least 12 similarities in terms of movements, and composition of eight members in a group, including two drummers.

2015 IITS, Taramani conference

“…….mounting evidences to indicate that she was from Tamil Nadu, in particular Pandyan or Aai kingdom”: Rathi Jafer, Director at the InKo Centre, points out that there is the historical journey of Bodhidharma, the monk believed to be from South India who spread Buddhism to China and Korea[5]. We aim to initiate a research project soon to examine the historic links between South India and South Korea, both the ancient trajectories and the contemporary manifestations of this inter-cultural exchange. Of particular interest will be the Buddhist links that existed between the Pandyan, Pallava and the Gaya kingdoms, the manner in which Buddhist scriptures, iconography, language and the introduction of iron and steel are credited as having been transferred from South India to South Korea,” she says. Kannan Narayanaa[6] of Tamil Heritage Foundation claimed that “Researchers thought that Ayuta is actually Ayodhya in India. But there has been mounting evidences to indicate that she was from Tamil Nadu, in particular Pandyan or Aai kingdom. Recent genetic studies by researchers Jeong-Sun SEO and Kim Jong-il on the remains of her tomb revealed genetic similarities between Indians and Koreans……. a lot more research needs to be done”. Without giving historical evidences, he made such claims and ended with apologetic note that “a lot more research needs to be done”! However, his intention has been different as revealed later. P. Banumathi, assistant professor, Department of Tamil in Valliammal College for Women, spoke about how the traditional weaving technology of the State was meritoriously followed in the interior parts of Korea even now.

Akanda dravidastan-balu, kannan

Orissa Balu inventor of “Sembavala Rani” who became goddess of Korea: A Malaysian friend sent a video about a “World Tamil Conference” held May 19th and 20th at Cambodia and asked me to go through and opine. When I watched the video carefully, I could understant that the same Kannan Narayanaa was talking in a different tone. Kannan has already uploaded his paper[7] in 2011, in which, repeating the researches of  Professor Kim Byeongmo and  Parthasarathi, suddenly asserts that she started at Nagapattinam or Mamallapuram, touching Sri Lanka, Nicobar Islands, Java (Bali) and finally reaching Guang-Zhou in China. Without giving any historical evidence, he concluded with “Substantial research is due.” In research, the researcher has to bring out his conclusion based on primary evidences, or secondary evidences with new interpretation. He cannot present the stuff that has already been presented, published etc. Here, the pattern note is that one researcher put forward one hypothesis without any historical evidences, but, linguistic with comparing here and there few words. This is picked up by another as concluded “history,” and adds his hypothesis. In short, the same old stuff, well-known stuff is repeated and and again with embellishment and internet bombardment of U-tubes and so on.

Delegates from Malaysia, May 20-05-2018

Orissa Balu’s old linguistic and racial studies promoting emotional Tamil separatism: Ironically, now he revealed the “inventor of Tamil lady who went from Tamilnadu to Korea” instead of Ayodhya. He was referring to “Orissa Balu” who asserted that the lady was from “Ay kingdom.” S. Balasubraminan from Orissa has been obsessive nationalist enthusiast turned Tamil propagandist. He started telling everybody that Tamil was the first language, from which all languages originated, “Kumarikandam” was there under Indian Ocean, he had gone under ocean and sea portions and so on. Though, he has not been telling anything new, for current generation, such stuff would exite them. Thus, he has become popular amongst the “pro-Tamil” groups and even DK invited him to talk about “Kumarikandam” at Periyar Thidal. The problem with this type of “Tamil researchers” have been that they read and interpret every non-Tamil word as Tamil without caring for other evidences. In 1960s one Arunagiri Nadar was doing that by bringing out small booklets showing all words of world were etymologically derived from Tamil. Later in 1980s, it was picked up, but claimed as his invention by one Sattur Sekaran. Now perhaps, Orissa Balu has come. Ironically, already there has been one Blalakrishnan from Orissa, an IAS officer has also been doing similar type of research, however, methodological.

Korea Puzhou Queen mother Huagyu Xu native place.Tamil Heritage foundation


Nagarajan’s paper on the Korean Queen of Tamilnadu[8]: One Prof. Nagarajan sent a paper to “Mintamil” group for the 2015 one-day-seminar, but, not presented or accepted. The following narrative is taken from his paper. “Though Korea has a long history of its own, until 1300 CE Korea remained as unknown and forbidden land to western world. The first publication of its history ‘Samguk Yusa’ or ‘The Heritage History of the Three Kingdoms’, a treasured work in Korea which was written in the 13th century enabled the Koreans to understand their longstanding history, heritage and legacy.  Based on the premise, Korean scholars believed that their first queen has come from a far of land known by the name Ayuktha.  When they commenced the research they first identified Ayuktha Kingdom of Thailand and subsequently reached Ayodhya of India.  Prima facie they believed that sufficient materials are available to accept the premise that their first queen was the Princess of Ayodhya. According to their sources,the princess from India travelled by boat having red colour flag with twin fish. She was accompanied by her brother and a team of 22 members as an embassy to meet the King Suro of Kaya Kingdom.  She travelled for two months and reached the Koean shore and she married King Suro on 27th July CE 48.  She carried with her valuable presents such as precious stones, tea plants, seven storm preventing stones and 12 stringed musical instrument………………[continued]

 

©Vedaprakash

24-05-2018

Subashini, Orissa Balu, Kannan

[1] https://www.thebetterindia.com/48519/ayodhya-south-korea-queen-hur-hwang-ok/

[2] The Hindu, Words that speak of an enduring link between Tamil and Korean, D. Madhavan, NOVEMBER 07, 2015 00:00 IST; UPDATED: NOVEMBER 07, 2015 09:05 IST.

[3] As per the brochure issued by the organizers and available in the “Mintamil” group website.

[4] http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/words-that-speak-of-an-enduring-link-between-tamil-and-korean/article7853212.ece

[5] DTnext, Tracing ties between Tamil Nadu and South Korea, Published: Nov 06,201506:42 PM.

[6] https://www.dtnext.in/News/City/2015/11/06184227/Tracing-ties-between-Tamil-Nadu-and-South-Korea.vpf

[7] N. Kannan, The Tamil-Korean Relatioonship, Proceedings on the International Seminar on the Contributions of Tamils to the Composite Culture of Asia, Institute of Asian Studies, Chennai, India. 16th-18th January 2011.  – https://www.academia.edu/16555174/Tamil_Korean_relationship

[8] Prof.V.Nagarajan, The legend of Queen Heo Hwang-ok – the first queen of Korea. Historizing her as the princess from India, Virtual freelance researcher; Email: professor.nagarajan@gmail.com, Mobile: 09003271687

 

The Indian woman who went to Korea and became the Queen – the Korea-Indian connection[1]

May 24, 2018

The Indian woman who went to Korea and became the Queen – the Korea-Indian connection[1]

Prof Byung Mo Kim

The queen of Korea’s biggest dynasty Hoh was the daughter of Ayodhya[1] (January 2010): Indian express, in January 2010, it carried the following news: “A Professor Emeritus of Hanyang University and national archaeologist from Korea, Prof Byung Mo Kim shares a ‘genetic connection’ with Ayodhya.”I share my genes with the royal family of Ayodhya. Travellers from both these countries not just traded goods, but also genes. And I hail from the Kara dynasty, whose first woman was the princess of Ayodhya, who married the first Kara king. Her brothers went on to become the Kings of Ayodhya and this is how I am genetically connected to the holy city,” said Prof Kim. The archaeologist, whose work on the princess of Ayodhya marrying the prince of Korea’s Kara dynasty in 4th century AD has received widespread recognition, is on his fifth visit to the Holy city in search of more evidence for his study. On his three-day visit to the state, he not only visited Ayodhya but also made a slide presentation on historical evidences of cultural links between Ayodhya and Korea, on being invited by the state government’s Ayodhya Shodh Sansthan. “The queen of Korea’s biggest dynasty Hoh was the daughter of Ayodhya and in that manner, Ayodhya is like our mother city. Princess Ho travelled by sea route and married King Kim Suro of Kara dynasty. He was the first king and the entire Kara clan, which comprises over about two third the population of Korea are its descendents,” said Prof Kim.

Personal history of Huh Whang Ok

The archaeological evidences of Korea and India – compared[2] (Jan.2010): The professor Kim says, “The twin fish, which is the state symbol of Uttar Pradesh and is found on almost all the ancient buildings of Ayodhya, is the biggest clue to the link and the route undertaken by Princess Hoh,. “I have pictorial evidences. The twin fish symbol is originally from the Mediterranean states and it travelled to this part of the world and settled around Lucknow. But the same twin fish symbol can also be seen in ancient buildings in Nepal, Pakistan, China and Japan and the gate of royal tomb of King Suro in Kimhae city in Korea,” said Prof Kim. But, it is not this connection alone that has brought the archaeologist here as he also seeks a cultural connect between Ayodhya in Uttar Pradesh and Kimhae city in Korea. “For the last 40 years, I have bn tracing the route taken by the princess between Ayodhya and Kimhae city and after five visits, I have all the evidence to culturally connect the two cities.” Nearly six years ago [2004], the Korean government had declared Ayodhya as the sister city of Korea and a monument in the memory of Princess Hoh was also established here in the city. “The Kara clan is the biggest community in Korea and we like to visit our queen mother’s place. Through these visits, we are making attempts to talk to the Uttar Pradesh government to open up their doors for strengthening cultural relations between the two countries,” said Prof Kim. Ayodhya Shodh Sansthan director Dr Y P Singh said the state’s culture department is making all efforts to help the Koreans find their missing links. “Through these interactions, we have been able to find new facets of Ayodhya and now in addition to being Lord Ram’s birthplace, the city has another significance attached,” said Singh.k[3].

Personal history of Huh Whang Ok- Samkuk Yusa 13th cent CE

Upgrading the monument for Queen Suriratna, also know as Hur Hwang-ok, in Ayodhya[4] (July 2015): Beginning Tuesday, July 12, 2015, the Indian Council for Cultural Relations (ICCR) in collaboration with the India International Centre (IIC) will initiate a two-day international conference. India has begun the work of tracing its “shared heritage” with Korea using the legendary Queen Suriratna, a princess from Ayodhya who travelled to the country to marry King Kim Suro in 48 AD, as a pivot[5]. This tale of the Ayodhya princess was also mentioned in “Samkuk Sagi”, ‘Samguk Yusa’ or ‘The Heritage History of the Three Kingdoms’, a treasured work in Korea which was written in the 13th century[6]. Her real name is not mentioned anywhere. While her memorial is located in Ayodhya [India], her tomb lies in Gimhae [Korea][7]. It is believed that the stones used to build the tomb were sent from Ayodhya to Korea. Gimhae Mayor Song Eun-Bok had visited Ayodhya in 2000 with a similar plan. It didn’t materialise, but he had inaugurated the queen’s memorial at that time. Later on, an agreement was signed in March 2001 to develop Ayodhya and Gimhae as sister cities. Now, a fresh initiative has been made to connect the two cities culturally[8].

The twin fish symbol travelled from the mediterranean to Ahodhya, and then to Korea according to Byung Mo Kim

Intenational conference on the links between Korea and India (July 2015): During Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Seoul in May, it was announced that India and Korea would strengthen their historic connection by enhancing linkages of Korean people with Ayodhya. A decision was also taken to upgrade the monument for Queen Suriratna, also know as Hur Hwang-ok, in Ayodhya as a joint project between the two countries. Beginning Tuesday, the Indian Council for Cultural Relations (ICCR) in collaboration with the India International Centre (IIC) will initiate a two-day international conference, which will include delegates from Korea, to discuss the aspects of cultural links between the two countries, focusing on the legend of the Queen. “There is limited awareness in India about Queen Suriratna, a lot of information has not been documented. Based on the contribution from scholars and researchers at the two-day conference, we will come out with a book on the Queen,” said an official of the ICCR.

The journey of Huh Whang Ok, according to Byung Mo Kim

Similarities between Indians and Koreans poined out[9]: Work on renovation of the monument dedicated to the Queen in Ayodhya will also commence soon. The ICCR official said details about how the princess from Ayodhya travelled to Korea and became the Queen are sparse, though there is the work of Prof. Kim Byung-mo and a television series that was broadcast on the Korean TV channel MBC in 2010[10]. In India there have been a few publications, including a book by India’s former Ambassador to Korea N. Parthasarathi, but no extensive academic work done on the issue on both sides. Notes about the seminar released by the ICCR, point out that the Queen’s descendants in Korea include the Gimhae Kims, Huhs and the Incheon area Lee clans. “Among her famous descendents is Gen. Kim Yoo-shin, who first unified the Korean Kingdom in the 7th Century. Contemporary personalities include former President and Nobel laureate Kim Dae-jung and former Prime Minister Kim Jong-pil, former President Kim Young-sam, and the wife of former President Lee Myung-bak (Ms. Kim Yoon-ok),” the ICCR document says. It goes on to claim that Gimhae Kims and Huhs do not inter-marry as both are believed to be the descendants of King Kim Suro and Queen Heo, much like the ‘gotra tradition’ followed in India.

Ayodhya Korea connection - 6 route to Korea from Ayodhya-boat

Koreans come to Ayodhya to commomerate her Queen Hur Hwang-ok[11]: The holy city of Ayodhya, in Uttar Pradesh, plays host to hundreds of South Koreans every year – who come to pay their tributes to the legendary queen Hur Hwang-ok. According to legend, queen Hur Hwang-ok, also known as Princess Suriratna, was the princess of Ayodhya before she went to South Korea and married King Kim Suro of Karak Clan in 48 AD. It is believed that she reached Korea on a boat, and was the first queen of King Suro of Geumgwan Gaya. She was 16-year-old when she got married and is considered the first queen of Gaya Kingdom. It is because of the presence of her monument in Ayodhya that around 60 lakh people of the Karak clan consider the city as their maternal home. The memorial was first inaugurated in 2001 in Ayodhya and more than a hundred historians and government representatives, including the North Korean ambassador to India, were present during the ceremony. Seven million Koreans, representing the Kimhae Kim clan, Hur clan and Incheon Yi clan, trace their ancestry to the royal union.

©Vedaprakash

24-05-2018

Ayodhya Korea connection - 1

[1] Indian Express, Korean relative of Kings of Ayodhya goes on evidence huntingTarannum Manjul, Tarannum Manjul : Lucknow, Thu Jan 21 2010, 04:25 hrs.

http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/korean-relative-of-kings-of-ayodhya-goes-on-evidence-hunting/569976/

[2] Indian Express, Korean relative of Kings of Ayodhya goes on evidence huntingTarannum Manjul, Tarannum Manjul : Lucknow, Thu Jan 21 2010, 04:25 hrs.

http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/korean-relative-of-kings-of-ayodhya-goes-on-evidence-hunting/569976/2

[3] http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/korean-relative-of-kings-of-ayodhya-goes-on-evidence-hunting/569976/0

[4] The Hindu, Unravelling the Ayodhya-Korea link, Smriti Kak Ramachandran NEW DELHI:, JULY 13, 2015 01:21 IST; UPDATED: JULY 13, 2015 01:21 IST

[5] NDTV, Millions of Koreans Trace Origins to India: Diplomat, All India | Indo-Asian News Service | Updated: July 17, 2015 01:09 IST

[6] https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/millions-of-koreans-trace-origins-to-india-782260

[7] Mail.online.india, Ayodhya’s new world heritage site will remember Korean queen, By Piyush Srivastava, PUBLISHED: 23:10 BST, 8 March 2015 | UPDATED: 23:10 BST, 8 March 2015

[8] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-2985499/Ayodhya-s-new-world-heritage-site-remember-Korean-queen.html

[9] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/unravelling-the-ayodhyakorea-link/article7414110.ece

[10] https://youtu.be/38yshfQt-hY; https://youtu.be/1W8iubHIplk

[11] The Better India, Hundreds of South Koreans Visit Ayodhya Every Year. This Is Why!, by Tanaya Singh March 5, 2016, 12:48 pm

Richard Huckle, Vijesh Kooriyil and Hasan Suroor: How these pedophiles are different to be treated variously under secularism or otherwise by the British and Indian media?

June 9, 2016

Richard Huckle, Vijesh Kooriyil and Hasan Suroor: How these pedophiles are different to be treated variously under secularism or otherwise by the British and Indian media?

Pedophiles connected with India are prosecuted in London CourtsJune 2016 flooded with pedopphile cases adjudicated in London, but connected with India: In June 2016, pedophile cases are adjudicated and decided in London courts prosecuting various categories, as reports appearing in the media. They are first Richard Huckle, second Vijesh Kooriyil[1] and then, columnist Hasan Suroor. Indians really have to wonder as to how all these pedophiles have been connected with India, particularly South India. Indians do not know as to such pedophile cases would be decided in June one by one.  Richard Huckle was visiting Bangalore Christian orphanage,   Vijesh Kooriyil hailing from Malappuram and Hasan Suroor, the famous columnist of “The Hindu”! As Indians are imbibed with secularism, western and leftist ldeologists, they are made to think as this prosecution has been of the British type or secular type. Richard Huckle has been Christian, Vijesh Kooriyil obviously Hindu and Hasan Suroor Muslim! Whether the court cases are timed, reporting coincidental or assumed pattern incidental would be decided in due course. However, the accelerated interest, swift attention and rapid curiosity exibited by certain Indian media makes Indians to concentrate in the news. Yes, the Hasan Suroor has been picked up by “The Hindu”, “Outlook, “Scroll.in” etc., to come out with response evidently heaving a sigh of relief. First look at the news appearing in the media.

hasan-suroor-muslim-apologetic-columnistCharged Hasan Suroor found not guilty: A UK court on Tuesday (07-06-2016) dropped a case of “sexual grooming” against an Indian-origin British journalist, London-based Indian journalist and columnist Hasan Suroor for lack of evidence and declared him not guilty[2]. Suroor was ‘trapped’ by a vigilante group at a spot in south London and subjected to aggressive and threatening questioning by the group. The Crown charged Mr. Suroor with violating Section 16 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 (sexual grooming of a child) and Section 1(1) of the Criminal Attempts Act (1981)[3]. The Crown formally withdrew charges as its chief witness Jonathan Clark, a member of the vigilante group, withdrew his support for the prosecution and failed to appear. Further, Mr. Suroor has no digital footprint of grooming, which is common marker of online sexual grooming, his lawyer Paul Mason told The Hindu[4].

hasan-suroor-muslim-apologetic-columnist-supporting-isSerious allegations were sought to be pursued on the basis of a “telephone call” from an “unregulated” vigilante group: Suroor, who was arrested by British Transport Police (BTP) last November 2015 after an anti-paedophile sting operation in London, is now planning to sue the vigilante group, Unknown TV, behind the sting for damages[5]. “Following a further review of the case there is now no longer a realistic prospect of conviction,” the UK’s Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) told Blackfriars Crown Court in a written submission on Tuesday (07-06-2016). The judge ruled that he had decided to return an “unequivocal verdict of not guilty”. The judge ruled he had decided to return an “unequivocal” verdict of “not guilty” and criticised the prosecution’s handling of the case[6]. He said he was “extremely concerned” that such serious allegations were sought to be pursued on the basis of a “telephone call” from an “unregulated” vigilante group[7]. But, Indians wonder as to such an advanced country could have such “unregulated” vigilante group moving all over the London city prouling on alleged pedophiles and the CPS to book case pursued on the basis of a “telephone call” from them.

hasan-suroor-leftist-is-supporter-hindutwa-opponent-twitters-2A written order declaring Suroor innocent is to be issued on 24 June 2016: A written order declaring Suroor innocent is to be issued on 24 June 2016 along with a ruling on his application for his legal costs to be reimbursed. Suroor’s lawyer Paul Mason said: “The robust stand we took has paid off.” The CPS is yet to officially comment on the case[8]. Suroor had been caught on camera as he was confronted by members of Unknown TV, organisers of the sting operation who alleged he was waiting for a 14-year-old girl[9]. A member of the anti-paedophile vigilante group had allegedly posed as a 14-year-old and allegedly solicited Suroor on social media[10]. Groups such as Unknown TV pose as minors on dating and social networking sites in an attempt to catch adult men who solicit sex with minors[11].

Parvathi Menon, The Hindu columnistParvathi Menon expert on “Ayodhya related secular issues”[12] reports about the case: It is intriguing that the “Outlook” has come out with apologia sort of support to Saroor[13], that too, an article type written by[14]Dipsikha Thakur is a trainee journalist with Outlook. She graduated from Cambridge earlier this year with a BA in English and Classics.” She has written a lengthy story, as if, she was writing for her examinations. But, “The Hindu” has been more professional, as it has bandwagon of historians category of columinists (Bangalore’s residential editor of The Hindu). Thus, Parvathi Menon came for resucue[15], “The charges of sexual-grooming filed …have been withdrawn for lack of evidence, although the judge hearing the case at the Blackfriars Crown Court has set the date for formally declaring Mr. Suroor, “not guilty” on June 24…….”. She has been so faithful and loyal to mention him as “Mr.Suroor was ‘trapped’”……….. subjected to aggressive and threatening questioning by the group. …….. as its chief witness Jonathan Clark, a member of the vigilante group, withdrew his support for the prosecution and failed to appear……… Further, Mr. Suroor has no digital footprint of grooming, which is common marker of online sexual grooming, his lawyer Paul Mason told The Hindu……..”. Paravthi Menon as been a vigorous writer on Ayodhya related issues[16] commenting upon the Supreme Court judgment and so on, particularly criticizing Hindutwa[17].

Vijesh Kooriyil Crown Court“….chief witness Jonathan Clark, a member of the vigilante group, withdrew his support for the prosecution and failed to appear….”: The proceedings, as reported by the British media has been intriguing, for the following reasons:

1.       The CPS is yet to officially comment on the case.

2.      The written order to be out on June.24, 2016.

3.      The complaintant / witness did not co-operate or became hostile.

4.      That is, the chief witness Jonathan Clark, a member of the vigilante group, withdrew his support for the prosecution and failed to appear…

5.      The Vigilant group may appeal.

Why then, the particular Indian media houses react differently for Hasan Surror, but keeping silence on the first two pedophiles ant the related issues. When India has already been affected by the pedophile menace, how they could react with bias towards Hasan Suroor alone without caring for thousands and perhaps, lakh of Indian children, young boys and girls, teenage girls and others. Really, it is ironical that they play “communal card” under the guise of “secularism”!

© Vedaprakash

09-06-2016

[1] Kerala Paedophile failed to turn up at Oxford Crown Court on Tuesday to face trial for repeatedly raping a young boy in Oxford between 2010 and 2011. The court heard the 29-year-old business manager was on unconditional bail when he told his solicitors he was going to attend court, before boarding a plane to Delhi from Heathrow on Monday night (06-06-2016). But a jury of seven women and five men unanimously found Kooriyil guilty of both rapes on the boy who was aged six or seven at the time.

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/14536619.International_manhunt_launched_for__dangerous__child_rapist_who_fled_on_the_eve_of_his_trial/

[2] Firstpost.com, Indian-origin UK journalist Hasan Suroor found not guilty in paedophile sting case, PTI  Jun 8, 2016 07:25 IST

[3] The Hindu, Crown Prosecution withdraws charges of sexual grooming against journalist Hasan Suroor, Parvathi Menon, London, June 8, 2016 Updated: June 8, 2016 19:12 IST

[4] http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/crown-prosecution-withdraws-charges-of-sexual-grooming-against-journalist-hasan-suroor/article8705923.ece

[5] http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/06/08/hasan-suroor_n_10349758.html

[6] The Hindusthan Times, Case against Indian-origin scribe Suroor dropped in UK, Updated: Jun 08, 2016 10:42 IST

[7] Scroll.in, Not enough evidence against journalist Hasan Suroor in child abuse case, says UK by Scroll Staff

[8] http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/case-against-indian-origin-scribe-suroor-dropped-in-uk/story-NF7rt7o8aoStnOxb6ZvdcK.html

[9] The allegations are related to a sting video shot by the group, in which a group of men are heckling Suroor and accusing him of paedophilia. According to Outlook, the 65-year-old journalist did not deny the group’s allegations that he had met a 14-year-old girl online and that they exchanged sexually suggestive messages. They agreed to meet, and while he was waiting for the girl to show up, the group members appeared with a camera and cornered him. http://scroll.in/latest/809547/not-enough-evidence-against-journalist-hasan-suroor-in-child-abuse-case-says-uk

[10] The Huffington Post, Indian-Origin Journalist Hasan Suroor Found Not Guilty In Paedophile Sting Case, Posted: 08/06/2016 13:41 IST Updated: 08/06/2016 13:42 IST

[11] http://www.firstpost.com/india/indian-origin-uk-journalist-hasan-suroor-found-not-guilty-in-paedophile-sting-case-2822400.html

[12] http://www.frontline.in/static/html/fl1809/18090790.htm

[13] Outlook, Hasan Suroor and the question of culpability, Thursday, 09 June, 2016.

[14] http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/hasan-suroor-and-the-question-of-culpability/295868

[15] http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/crown-prosecution-withdraws-charges-of-sexual-grooming-against-journalist-hasan-suroor/article8705923.ece

[16] http://www.frontline.in/static/html/fl2019/stories/20030926005613100.htm

[17] http://www.countercurrents.org/comm-menon300304.htm

Malda IHC conference, communal fire and blaspheme riots – were they incidental, coincidental or ancillary (4)?

January 14, 2016

Malda IHC conference, communal fire and blaspheme riots – were they incidental, coincidental or ancillary (4)?

Where Heroin is villain-Vast fields of illegal poppy crop at Gopalgunj in West Bengals Malda district

The region is an epicentre of illegal drug trade’: Kaliachak is India’s Afghanistan where poppy farming, weapons smuggling and radicalisation make a lethal cocktail: As Soudhriti Bhabani reports[1], “A vast, green expanse dotted with mosquito net covered plots along the serpentine road near Malda’s Golapganj stands as a forbidden land for the outsider. Narcotics money is at the heart of lawlessness in this West Bengal district bordering Bangladesh. So can anybody deny that such money had not gone into the lavish hospitality extended to the thousands of delegates of IHC assembled there from December 27th to 31st, 2015? The police say a large portion of this drug money goes into buying sophisticated weapons smuggled through the porous Bangladesh border and running hundreds of un-recognised madrassas in the Muslim-dominated (a little over 52 per cent, on last count) district. Why then, IHC had not thought about to pass resolution requesting them to be “nationalists or patriotic”. “It is true that the region is an epicentre of illegal drug trade and a counterfeit currency racket because of its strategic location along the international border,” West Bengal director general of police, Intelligence Branch, Raj Kanojia told Mail Today.  “The district administration is looking into it, especially after the Kaliachak violence. It has taken enough action and now it will get doubled following the police station ransacking incident.” 

 Malda Kaliachak polic  station

The Kaliachak violence on January 3, 2016 was a pre-planned attack by Muslim groups under the garb of protesting against the hate speech of Kamlesh Tiwari: Local officials say the Kaliachak violence on January 3, was a pre-planned attack by Muslim groups under the garb of protesting against the hate speech of Akhil Bharat Hindu Mahasabha leader Kamlesh Tiwari, thus noted Soudhriti Bhabani. Mamta also says it was between the police and the local people, that is all very simple. Why then, innocent hindus, who are not at all connected with all these crimes, should have been attacked? More than 35 vehicles were torched, government properties ransacked and the Kaliachak police station set on fire. “The entire violence was carried out to terrorise the local administration which is trying to crack down on the poppy empire, take revenge against the police and destroy crucial evidence at the police station,” a police official said, requesting anonymity. Barely 8 km from the border, even children and youngsters collect white latex from the opium poppy (Papaver somniferum) – a mother product for producing heroin. It shows that the involved have been manufacturing drugs and they do not any people to come there to know.

Jan.3 rioters start

IHC historians are more worried about stones going to Ayodhya than the extraction of Opium in Malda: Border areas like Golapganj, Baliadanga, Kaliachak, Mohabbatpur, Mothabari and Danga are now the epicentre of anti-national activities, thanks to the flourishing drug trade. Yet, the IHC historians were worried about the stones going to Ayodhya. Senior officials of the excise department told The Hindu[2] on Wednesday 13-01-2016 that poppy cultivated on nearly 500 acres had been destroyed in Kaliachak and adjoining areas over the past one week. “The drive started on January 5 and till today evening (January 13), 1,500 bighas (495 acres) of poppy cultivation has been destroyed in a joint operation where the police, BSF and excise department are involved,” the official said. As the burnt police stations have been repaired, painted and renovated hurriedly to wipe out all the evidences, perhaps, here, also, all the opium crops were destroyed, there would not be any evidence. Then, Mamta happily declare nothing happened here, it is only the media hype about small skirmishes taken place.

Tiwari protest turned riot

While several theories are floating about the January 3 violence in the Kaliachak area, it is also believed that illegal poppy cultivation could be one of the reasons behind the incident: “We have also registered cases against the owners of the land where it has been cultivated. While several theories are floating about the January 3 violence in the Kaliachak area, it is also believed that illegal poppy cultivation could be one of the reasons behind the incident. Several police vehicles were torched and the local police station was attacked during the violence. So when all these activities have been going on, are the eminent, intelligent and progressive historians fools to pretend and pass resolutions about the stones coming to Ayodhya, instead of worrying about the place, where, they conduct the tamasha for second time?  The 71st session of IHC was also held here in February 2011 instead of December 2010. Thus, in five years, they could not assess what has been going on in Malda? Why not they encourage some crackpots to present papers on Opium manufacture in Malda, Poppy Cultivation in the Northern west Bengal and so on!

Fake currency, arms-smuggling in / through Malda: Other than poppy cultivation, smuggling of fake currency is also a major concern for law enforcement authorities in the district which shares a border with Bangladesh. Fake currency notes amounting to Rs.3.08 crore were seized in the district in 2015 and 105 cases were registered. Also, 187 cases of possessing illegal arms were registered in the district in the same year[3].  Be it peddling of Fake Indian Currency Notes (FICN) involving the local youth, illegal migration, drug and arms supply or smuggling, Malda is a bustling hub. “The place has become a mini Afghanistan. It is a very sensitive matter and the assembly election is knocking on the door. All I can say is that the situation in Kaliachak is really alarming,” said a senior Trinamool Congress leader, requesting anonymity for political reasons. He said recently, a car had been caught in the area packed with cash, but had to be released after officials got a call from somebody influential.” When the eminent historians of IHC knew that the stones were coming to Ayodhya, definitely, they knew that Islamic fundamentalists had also been attending the IHC session there in Malda. As they have been Communist card holders, professed-confessed Marxists and well-known leftists and spreading such ideology in the IHC sessions, they also know very well about the narcotic nexus of their Marxists political masters of Malda and the operators working in the northern parts of West Bengal. Earlier, the courts proved as to how the very same eminent historians deposed as witnesses for the cause of Muslims.  And thus, now, it is interpreted[4] that “Malda Violence is a Result of “An Opium War”, Not communal”!

Kalpataru Day and the Day of riots: So the IHC was concluded on December 30th 2015 and the delegates started moving out of Malda from 30th– 31st night onwards. Some delegates were visiting Dakshineswar Kali Temple, and other places. First January though happened to be Kalpataru Day and the Bengalis fervently pray to Kali for their wishes to be fulfilled, as it was also a Friday for the Muslims to get gathered at mosques. So after Friday prayers, they started their riot. And by January 3rd, it became national news. Thus, none bothered about Kalpataru Day, but talked about Kaliachak and not about Kalighat! As Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa has been secularized by “M” by making him to drink like Christian and eat like Mohammedan etc., Kalpataru Day has been completely secularized. IHC delegates would be only thining about the figure of Romila Thapar instead of Kalimata. She has been the centre of attraction and the youngsters virtually prostrate before her! Perhaps, even AMMA could not get such status!

© Vedaprakash

14-01-2016

[1] Soudhriti Bhabani,The region is an epicentre of illegal drug trade’: Kaliachak is India’s Afghanistan where poppy farming, weapons smuggling and radicalisation make a lethal cocktail, PUBLISHED: 23:33 GMT, 9 January 2016 | UPDATED: 00:20 GMT, 10 January 2016.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-3392013/The-region-epicentre-illegal-drug-trade-counterfeit-currency-racket-Kaliachak-India-s-Afghanistan-poppy-farming-weapons-smuggling-infiltration-radicalisation-make-lethal-cocktail.html

[2] The Hindu, Crackdown on poppy in Malda, Shiv Sahay Singh, Kolkotta, January, 14, 2016.

[3] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/crackdown-on-poppy-in-malda/article8103838.ece

[4] http://caravandaily.com/portal/malda-violence-is-a-result-of-an-opium-war-not-communal/

Malda IHC conference, communal fire and blaspheme riots – were they incidental, coincidental or ancillary (2)?

January 14, 2016

Malda IHC conference, communal fire and blaspheme riots – were they incidental, coincidental or ancillary (2)?

Eminent historians, IHC, resoltion mughal tombs to be protected

Unblushing, spineless and biased historians stroking the fire of communalism (30-12-2015): Eminent historians like Irfan Habib, Aditya Mukherjee, Shireen Mousvi, and BP Sahu Indu Banga were present at the 76th nsession, when the resolutions were passed. The resolution recalled that the IHC had said since 1984 that the Babri Masjid was “entitled to protection both as a medieval monument built in 1528 and as an example of Sharqi architecture.” …..“However, it was allowed to be destroyed in 1992 — an act which provoked national condemnation,” the resolution said. “That destruction was planned to enable the ground to be cleared to build a modern temple.” When UPA was in power, they did not worry about the stones coming to Ayodhya, as the work has been going on for many years. Virtually, it is a small factory, where all the tourists can go inside and see the processes carried on without any restriction. About recent happenings of other things (in the name of tolerance etc.,), these historians were keeping quiet, why then suddenly in Malda, they started to give political discourse about the Babri Masjid? How can they forget that they have been condemned by the Allahabad High Court for misleading the Court?

Harbans Mukhia, Suvira Jaiswal, Indu Banga, Rajan Gurukkal, Romila, Shereen Ratnagar

The way the eminent historians deal court cases: Though Romila Thapar roared that they would file an appeal, she kept quiet and disappeared, perhaps, to save her honour. Whenever, Rama comes in the news, she used to come and say something against and disappear. But, she never goes to court, as she threatens. Irfan Habib chose to reply in his own way[1], but, none cared for. Thus, the recent war of words between eminent professional historians and Sangh Parivar outfits reached a new high on Tuesday (30-12-2015), with the Indian History Congress (IHC) passing a resolution against the arrival of engraved stones in Ayodhya, for a future Ram temple at the site where the Babri Masjid once stood[2]. In fact, there was no discussion and the resolutions were passed just like that[3]. On December 23, 2015, The Hindu cleverly carried an editorial to bat for the “eminent” historians, who have been the witnesses for the Muslims in the Babri case in the courts[4]. Not only that they were exposed by the High Court during the cross examination[5], about their spreading lies, planting biased articles in newspapers and deposing without visiting Ayodhya!

Gyanendra Pandey, Suraj Bhan, Indu Banga, D N Jha, K M Srimali, Satish Chandra

The eminent historians as witnesses of Muslims in the Babri Masjid case[6]: It is not known how they agreed to lend their names or ready to be witnesses in the Babari case to support Muslim cause. The eminent historians, historical experts and leftist manufacturers never bother about their secular credentials.  It is not known as to why these coteries should always support for the Masjid or Muslim cause. But, as the Muslim groups have been dominating the IHC sessions and sponsorship provided, they were obliged to act as witnesses. Ironically, the following have been the witnesses of the case in question:

Sl.No Witness no Name of the witness
1 Witness No. 63 R.S. Sharma
2 Witness No. 64 Suraj Bhan
3 Witness No. 65 D.N. Jha[7]
4 Witness No. 66 Romila Thapar
5 Witness No. 70 Irfan Habib
6 Witness No. 72 B.N. Pandey
7 Witness No. 95 K.M. Shrimali
8 Witness No. 99 Satish Chandra
9 Witness No. 102 Gyanendra Pandey

Unfortunately, in the 2012 Allahabad court judgment, when were exposed, they got wild. So they started criticizing the judgment to save their faces. Then, where is their loci standi in criticising the judgment and Court? As witnesses, definitely, they could have deposed before the judges presenting their “historical facts” as they only know how to interpret! The public perhaps, even today do not know that in secular India, these historians stood witnesses to the Muslims! Why none has appeared for Hindus or temple cause? When the cold-blooded terrorist and heinous killer like Kasab is given legal aid, why none appeared for the non-Muslim and non-mosque group? Where is secularism? Would they come out in the public what they told to the judges in the Court? However, the poor show showed in the court by them raises many questions.

Eminent historians, Arun Shourie

How eminent historians made their elite historians to lie before the Court: Let us see, what these eminent historians deposed before the court and offered their expertise during the cross-examination:

  1. Supriya Verma an, “expert” who challenged the excavations done by the ASI, had not read the radar survey report on ground penetration that led to the court order for excavation.
  2. Verma and Jaya Menon, another “expert,” were not present at the time of actual excavations but alleged that pillar bases at the excavated sites were planted.
  3. Suvira Jaiswal says: “Whatever knowledge I gained with respect to the disputed site is based on newspaper reports or what others told.”
  4. She also confessed that she “prepared a report on the Babri dispute after reading newspaper reports and on the basis of discussion with my medieval history expert in my department”.
  5. Jaiswal made an important clarification: “I am not giving (my) statement on oath regarding Babri Mosque without any probe and not on the basis of my knowledge; rather I am giving the statement on the basis of my opinion.”
  6. When opinion can be history why are they all screaming that “faith” cannot be an equally relevant criterion?
  7. Archaeologist Shereen Ratnagar admitted she did not have any “field” experience as far as Babri was concerned and had written an “introduction” to the book of another “expert” who deposed before the court, namely Prof D Mandal.
  8. Suraj Bhan was providing evidence based on medieval history but another expert of Muslim parties, namely Shireen Musavi, says that Bhan is an archaeologists and not a historian.

Is this the way that they should have confessed? Why then pretend as the expert of experts, scholar of scholars etc?

Allahabad High Court judment, eminent historians

“The Communist Party issues a red card, and I am its holder. It is true that I have no faith in religion.”:

  1. Prof Mandal retired from the Department of Ancient History and Archaeology, Allahabad University. He was appointed on an ad hoc basis as Lecturer in 1972 but prior to that he claimed to have worked as exploration assistant since 1960.
  2. Initially he appeared as an expert to depose that there was no archaeological evidence to show either the existence of any temple at the disputed site or that a temple was demolished before construction of the disputed structure.
  3. The statements made by him in cross-examination show the shallowness of his knowledge and provide a sample about all these “eminences”. A few of his quotes:
    1. “I never visited Ayodhya”.
    2. “I do not have any specific knowledge of the history of Babur’s reign.”
    3. “Whatsoever little knowledge I have about Babur is only that Babur was the ruler of the 16th century.
    4. Except for this I do not have any knowledge of Babur.
    5. I do not have knowledge of anything in 2nd Para of the editorial preface to my book (exhibit 63) in which Romila Thapar has written that Vishwa Hindu Parishad, BJP and Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, for the first time, raised the issue of the Babri Masjid being located on the place which was earlier Rama’s birth place.
    6. I also do not know whether or not it is correctly written on page 10 of the aforesaid preface that Ayodhya is a site of pilgrimage for adherents of Ramanand school.”
    7. “The Communist Party issues a red card, and I am its holder. It is true that I have no faith in religion.”

So when they were torn into pieces exposing their expertise, professionalism, peer-group review and appreciation etc., how they still hold their heads high and gather courage to pass such resolutions?

  • Can Romila Thapar forget this?
  • Can Supriya Verma, Jaya Menon, Suvira Jaiswal, Shereen Ratnagar, Mandal etc., deny their role in spreading falsehood?
  • Then, what position, they have to pass resolutions at IHC in this cowardly fashion, instead of going to court?

© Vedaprakash

14-01-2016

 

[1]https://ia700408.us.archive.org/32/items/HistoryJudgementOfAllahabadHighCourtInRamjanmabhumibabriMasjidCase/HistoryJudgementOfAllahabadHighCourtInRamjanmabhumibabriMasjidCase.pdf

[2] http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/historians-condemn-buildup-in-ayodhya/article8042477.ece

[3] When Prof Grover, ICHR chairman (former) was there, he used to question their audacity to propose such resolutions, leave alone getting passed in this way. Now, the enjoying members did not know any implication of such resolutions passed, might feel heat now or later, when they realize.

[4] http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/editorial-on-ayodhya-temple-ominous-signals-from-ayodhya/article8018720.ece?ref=relatedNews

[5] http://www.firstpost.com/india/babri-demolition-how-hc-verdict-discredited-eminent-historians-547549.html

[6] https://vedaprakash.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/ramajanmabhumi-babarimasjid-evidences-and-court-or-hisorians-as-witnesses-and-sunni-wakf-board-experts/

[7] http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/stories/20101022272113200.htm

Malda IHC conference, communal fire and blaspheme riots – were they incidental, coincidental or ancillary (1)?

January 14, 2016

Malda IHC conference, communal fire and blaspheme riots – were they incidental, coincidental or ancillary (1)?

Azam Khan

Malda, IHC and resolution passed on Ayodhya-stones: The speeches of Azam Khan in November 2015 and the resolutions passed by IHC in December 2015 have been the ignition for the Muslims to run riot. “The collection of stones at Ayodhya raises the suspicion of another breach of law.  The Indian History Congress urges the Central and State governments to ensure that religious sentiments are not incited to play with monuments and break the law with impunity,” noted the IHC[1]. It is ironical that the eminent historians, who were indicted by the Allahabad High court for giving false evidences on historical and archaeological facts pertaining to Ayodhya have audacity to talk about law, breaking law etc. At the IHC session itself, many Malda Muslims attended to observe the proceedings of the Conference and they were very happy to note that the dominant coterie of IHC has been favouring for the cause of Muslims. Many papers read there have been in support of the Muslim-cause in many aspects. Of course, the AMU group conducted separate session, as usual, to kindle fire.

Ayodhya stones IHC resolution

Unblushing historians plan riot again in 2015: During the 76th session of the IHC held at the University of Gour Banga in Malda from December 27 to December 29, the Congress passed resolutions on the need to prevent the formulation of uniform syllabi across all universities, protect monuments, and stop the utilisation of monuments destroyed illegally (such as the Babri Masjid) for political gains. The IHC was established in Poona in 1935 at its first session under the name Modern History Congress, which was altered to its present name in 1938 at its second session at Allahabad. It was consciously organised as a forum for Indian historians and has held its annual sessions regularly since 1938. It has regularly considered issues of historical and national interest, and passed resolutions. In 1975 and 1976 it was the only Indian academic organisation that criticised the imposition of the Emergency in its resolutions. Since 1984 the IHC began to raise its voice against the threat to monuments, posed by the agitation against the Babri Masjid and agitations, both from different groups, demanding the Right of Worship in different monuments. It condemned the demolition of the Babri Masjid in 1992, and its present resolution is consistent with the standpoint it has consistently taken as the main body of India’s professional historians[2].

Eminent historians, IHC, resoltion

Flexibility needed for History Syllabi in Universities: The Indian History Congress is deeply concerned by the decision of the University Grants Commission (UGC) to introduce a uniform syllabus across universities in the country. Such a measure does not do justice to the differentiated nature of universities in different parts of the country. They adversely affect all of them by not allowing them to make use of their natural potential. Conceding a latitude of 20 to 30% will not address this problem. The work of regulatory bodies such as UGC should normally be to monitor the implementation of minimum standards and the basic principles enshrined in the constitution. Creating a homogenous syllabus from the whole country goes beyond this mandate and will strike at the roots of the autonomy of universities. Imposing a syllabus necessarily created by those who are unaware of the ground realities of particular universities will be tantamount to downgrading universities to the level of primary schools, defeating the purpose of higher education, and denying universities a chance to develop the resources available to each.

Eminent historians, IHC, resoltion mughal tombs to be protected

Resolution 2Protecting Monuments: The Indian History Congress has been constantly drawing the attention of the Archaeological Survey and other authorities towards the deteriorating condition of several monuments in the country, and their poor present state of preservation and lack of proper repair. At its 75th session (2014) at JNU, Delhi, it cautioned all concerned against the kind of restoration work by the Aga Khan Trust, which has gravely imperiled the status of Humayun’s Tomb — a world-heritage site. There are reports in the press of a crematorium affecting the Taj Mahal, and a fly-over dominating Akbar’s tomb, Sikandra. There are fears that Ajanta frescoes are getting affected. It is necessary to develop and enforce a rigorous system of protection and preservation on the strict established principles, so as to save our great national heritage.

IHC resoltion, ram-mandir, stones

Resolution 3No permission must be given to utilise the illegal destruction of monuments such as Babri Masjid for political gains: The Indian History Congress had strongly urged at its sessions from 1984 onwards that the Babri Masjid was entitled to protection both as a medieval monument, built in 1528, and as an important example of Sharqi architecture. However, it was allowed to be destroyed in 1992, an act which provoked national condemnation. That destruction was planned to enable the ground to be cleared to build a modern temple. Now the collection of stones at Ayodhya raises the suspicion of another breach of law. The Indian History Congress urges the central and state governments to ensure that religious sentiments are not incited to play with monuments and break the law with impunity.

Destruction_of_the_Temple_of_Baalshamin

IHC, ISIL and destruction of historical monuments: However, they are not worried about the artefacts, archaeological and historical evidences are being destroyed in Afghanistan, Syria and other places by Taliban, ISIL etc. It is not that they are not not connected with India and Indian history. Not only now, many Muslim boys and girls with all their engineering and other professional degrees have been sneaking to Syria and ready fight for ISIL and of course against India also. The Taliban, ISIL and all other jihadi groups have already declared that they would invade India and establish an Islamic State there or annexe it to Global Islami State to be formed. Then, what would happen to the historical monuments, toms etc., in India, about which the eminent historians have been so worried to pass resultions!

UGB_Main_Building

Malda-IHC manipulated to suit the Islamic fundamentalism: The IHC has been systematically promoting absurd papers submitted by some crackpot-writers like “Ayodhya was in Afghanistan” and so on. Though, majority believers of India and the members of IHC have been Hindus, the IHC coterie never bothers about Hindus, but promote only Islamic fundamentalism. If any one goes through proceedings volumes, she / he can find out easily as to how they have been biased against Hindus. As IHC has been a registered society and most of the members have been Hindus, the selected coterie cannot manipulate the proceedings in this way.  the As most of the right-wing and other neutral historians stopped attending the IHC, because of the manipulative, authoritarian and fascistic attitude of these so-called eminent, elite and emeritus historians, it has been working unquestioned by anybody. Of course, for them, there is no provision in MRTP ACT[3] to impose restrictions or conditions to contain their fascist monopoly activities. Recently, lakhs of rupees were pumped to accommodate and feed lavishly the delegates and hence, none even think of such things happening in IHC. The delegates were describing as to how many sweets were provided and so on at the Malda session!

RSS parivar IHC

Eminent historians, RSS and calling names: Azam Khan called RSSwalas homosexuals and one Hindu activist called Mohammedans also homosexuals and perhaps their leader also. So also IHC used to call RSS in different names. It is just like “tu-tu-me-me” [you scold, I scold; you abuse, I also abuse], as they used to tell in hindi.  However, why the eminent historians have been so allergetic, nervous and afraid of RSS is not known. From Romila Thapar to Irfan Habib, they are so worried about RSS and they take every opportunity to call RSS with names. Just one month back to IHC-Malda, when Intellectuals, scholars, academics, authors, scientists and artists gathered in New Deelhi here on Novemver 1, 2015 and called upon President Pranab Mukherjee to advise the government to ensure the freedom of life, faith and expression, in his speech, historian Irfan Habib said[4], “………There is not much difference between Islamic State (IS) and the RSS as far as intellect goes.” However, he could not condemn any of the Malda anti-national groups viz., Ittehad-e-Millat, Idara-e-Shariya and other leftist gangs involved in opium cultivation, drug manufacturing, arms-smuggling, fake-currency circulation and other illegal activities reported in the media openly. Jyoti Punwani notes[5] that “It’s the RSS for whom India’s senior most historian is an object of hate” under the caption “A history lecture under the shadow of thugs”. Ever since, they were indicted in the Allahabad High Court judgment, they became uncomfortable, as the English knowing readers have realized their double-game of supporting fundamentalist, radical and terrorist Muslims under the guise of promoting Marxist historiography and secularism with scientific temper and so on. Thus, to hide their motive, they try to attack RSS for their folly. Thus, now, they mention about Akhil Bharatiya Itihas Sankalan Samiti also in their writings and speeches.

© Vedaprakash

14-01-2016


 

[1] http://www.thecitizen.in/NewsDetail.aspx?Id=6447&Of/Lahore/and/Ayodhya%E2%80%A6.

[2] http://indianculturalforum.in/index.php/2016/01/11/indian-history-congress-dont-break-monuments-dont-incite-religious-sentiments/

[3] The Monopolistic and Restrictive Trade Practices Act, 1969.

[4] http://www.thehindu.com/news/not-much-difference-between-is-rss/article7832322.ece

[5] Jyoti Punwani, A history lecture under the shadow of thugs, October.29, http://thewire.in/2015/10/29/a-history-lecture-under-the-shadow-of-thugs-14369/

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/saffronising-textbooks-where-myth-and-dogma-replace-history/story-CauM4dmmsPGrjZ3APAvNxO.html

How Irfan Habib as as “eminent-elite” historian could attend the political meet conducted under the guise of “Convention for People’s Unity Against Communalism”?

November 3, 2013

How Irfan Habib as as “eminent-elite” historian could attend the political meet conducted under the guise of “Convention for People’s Unity Against Communalism”?

Fall of Comrades - Irfan Habib a witness 2013

Political and secular / communal nexus proved: The Weekly Organ of the Communist Party of India (Marxist), has duly acknowledged the services of the Comrade Irfan Habib and provided details as follows: “The fact that the Convention was inaugurated by one of India’s most renowned historians and accomplished scholar, Prof Irfan Habib, by itself sent the message that the unique evolution and growth of the `idea of India’ cannot be allowed to be thwarted by the communal forces, but the people only could not identify as to who are communal and secular[1]. It added that, “Eminent historian Professor Irfan Habib presided over the Convention. Addressing the Convention, he stressed the importance of coming together of all the leaders with influence on crores of people, on a single platform against communalism. He recalled how the communal forces killed Mahatma Gandhi for trying to see that communal amity is maintained and warned that these very forces are raising their head again”, so he becomes “leader of leaders” to address and advice[2]. That is ironically, the Comrades fell down on the stage in front of everybody!

Convention for People’s Unity Against Communalism.2

Secularism versus Communalism: So it is evident that again, the so-called debate of “Secularism-communalism” has started. Irfan Habib himself has been accused of behaving like “Communal Muslim” by none other than his old friend and Comrade M G S Narayanan. These two eminent, elite, renowned historians and accomplished scholars had fought with each other for many “historical issues” within and outside ICHR, IHC etc. In spite of their 100% pure secular brand standards, why they should have questioned the other about integrity, honesty, uprightness etc., in handing “historical affairs”. ICHR Controversy 2004 University today When they could not keep their things clean without any controversies, how they could join corrupt politicians and sit with them on the stage? None questioned how that one of the eminent, elite, renowned historians and accomplished scholars with their 100% pure secular brand standards should share with Mullayam Singh Yadav, and other politicians charged with many corruption cases?

MGS Narayanan ICHR sacked Dec 2003

Is it correct for Irfan Habib to inaugurate, attend and lecture at the Third-Front Conference: These elite, eminent and belligerent historians always cry that history should not be polluted on any account, no communalism, casteism, racism, sectarianism, medievalism,  parochialism and so on. They have been criticizing, condemning and even disparaging rightist, right wing, R S S, V H P, B J P and others as they spread communalism, communal virus, communal hatred and so on. During the IHC sessions they have been going on posing as secular, balanced, unbiased, historian doing good for the country.

Convention for People’s Unity Against Communalism-section of the audience

Historio-politicians and politico-historians should be made accountable: In the case of politicians, now people want that they should be sanitized, cleaned and disciplined with various Acts, Rules etc. Whenever, any politician comes under cloud, he is asked to keep him away from the politics and then come back, when, he is given clean chit. In the same way, why these blatantly political historians siding and hobnobbing with the politicians, acting agents and witnesses of communal organizations and Wakf Boards should not be asked to get out of the forums like ICHR, IHC etc., and then come, if they are cleared off of their acts of violation, contempt court proceedings, misappropriation charges etc[3].

convention-on-peoples-unity-against-communalism-from distance

Vedaprakash

02-11-2013


[1] People’s Democracy(Weekly Organ of the Communist Party of India (Marxist), Hugely Successful Convention against Communalism, Vol. XXXVII, No. 44, November 03, 2013
http://pd.cpim.org/2013/1103_pd/11032013_edit.html

[2] People’s Democracy, Clarion Call for Defeating Communal Forces, CONVENTION FOR PEOPLE’S UNITY AND AGAINST COMMUNALISM,(Weekly Organ of the Communist Party of India (Marxist)
Vol. XXXVII, No. 44, November 03, 2013, http://pd.cpim.org/2013/1103_pd/11032013_convention.html

[3] See Universitiestoday website for more details.